[Info] Mabinogi - Elemental Immune Monsters

• cheese758 wrote on 2013-06-12 03:46

  Quote from Dracius;1104909:

  Just cause Krug-sized monsters are immune to elemental reforges doesn't mean it's the end of them.
  Really, elemental reforges would be the last thing to ever be obsolete.

  
  
  Fixed.
  
  I can squash the pitiful enemies that are not immune with my gigantic colossus thus elementals are not needed. The enemies that can squash my colossus are immune to elementals. I'd prefer smash dmg or crashshot projectile dmg on my weapon any day to deal with those enemies. The only use I can see now for elementals is to pound down enemies with really high hp (npc or bosses) or in pvp. And even then, they would only be useful on knuckles. A lv 20 magnum or smash reforge would out do elementals on a lance or bow since they have no AoE value anymore.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-12 03:47

  Quote from ewire123;1104929:

  You be surprise. Devcat are know to Nerf op thing. This might be a trend. You might see more elemental immune mobs in the future, I'm guessing the harder content will follow the same path. Which is good, op reforge can fuck with old content, but new and harder content I expect to be immune to that shit for balance purpose.

  
  
  I like to remind that this only affects elemental reforges.
  
  Magnum Shot, Crash Shot, Smash, etc. reforges still apply their damage properly.
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-12 04:43

  Quote from Kenero;1104934:

  I like to remind that this only affects elemental reforges.
  
  Magnum Shot, Crash Shot, Smash, etc. reforges still apply their damage properly.

  
  
  Yes I know. But those are less broken than elemental, but still broken of course. Reforge is Nexon cash cow, they aint gonna completely nerf everything into the ground because that will hurt their $$$. Going into the achievment thread, I facepalm at the amount of reforge that some people buy.... Nexon love you <3!
• Syr wrote on 2013-06-12 04:47
  ...and then the next thing you know Nexon nerfs the boosts reforging gives.
• truefire wrote on 2013-06-12 04:55
  They may make elemental-immune mobs, but they won't nerf elementals. Why would they directly nerf what gives them money? The removal of elemental reforges from guns was indirect. Besides, if they really wanted to go there, they'd have retroactively nerfed the few elemental guns that came into existence.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-12 05:08

  Quote from Kenero;1104868:

  I wonder what tags will be used for monsters whose protection can be lowered from Brionac.

  
  
  Boss tagged, i have a list of them in xml form.
  
  
  Basically things in boss rooms are pretty much auto classified as boss mobs.
  
  an easier way to test is by using snare, anything you cannot snare, and i mean ANYTHING, is considered a boss mob, which is why you can snare ghasts and blinkers
  
  If anyone would like to test the above, go ahead, let me know if you can snare succubuses.
  I still need more conclusive testing since i know giant spiders are boss tagged and cannot be snared.
  Same with golems.
  Same with basilisk.
  Same with merrow.
• Tetosan wrote on 2013-06-12 06:51
  Elemental Immune Monster List
  
  
  Dragon Raid, Suilien Ecology, and Hewuyn Mines Related
  Additcted Sasquatch - Sasquatches in Sullien Ecology Area
  Black Dragon - Should be obvious
  Cosickeleptor - One of the White/Black Dragon Minion Spawns
  Emerald Golem - Golem in Heulwen Mines
  Emerald Hyena - Might also live in the Heulwen Mines
  Emerald Shrieker - ^
  Knife Wyvern - One of the White/Black dragon spawns
  Mutant Cannibal Carnivore - Big Plants in Ecology Area
  Mutant Carnivore - Small plants in ecology area
  Mutant Rabbit - Rabbits in Ecology Area
  Skeleton Armor Ogre (Irias2) - IriaS2 seems to be a Drama Tag too
  White Dragon - Obvious
  White Killer - Ogre spawned by White Dragon
  White Killer 2 - ^
  
  
  Drama Mobs
  Big Beautiful Black Tailed Mongoose - Mission mob
  Black Dragon - Obvious
  Black Tailed Mongoose - Mission Mob
  Cessair - Obvious
  Cessair's Heart - Obvious
  Cosickeleptor - See other Cosickeleptor
  Damaged Shaman Protect - a damaged shaman protect >>
  Human - it's ID name is something with Unknown so probably the Unknown Man
  Knife Wyvern - See other Knife Wyvern
  Kousai - >>
  Kusina - <<
  Millia - v v
  Otter - Otters spawned by Tupai/Ruwai
  Robber Goblin - a Robber Goblin?
  Robber Goblin Archer ^
  Robber Imp - A roober imp
  Robber Kingpin - A Robber Giant/Ogre
  Ruwai - ><
  Shaman Protect - Same as damaged shaman protect.... just not damaged
  Shaman Protecter - guy forming the shaman protects?
  Tupai - v^
  Waboka - <>
  White Dragon - White Dragon xD
  White Killer - See other White Killah
  White Killer 2 - ^
  
  
  Lord Mobs
  Argus
  Big Horn Gnu
  Black Buffalo
  Black Leopard
  Blinker / Beeper
  Blue Blind Crab
  Boss Hyena
  Cave Millipede
  Cave Sahagin Fighter
  Cave Sahagin Mage
  Cave Sahagin Ranger
  Cave Sahagin Warrior
  Coyote
  Crocodile
  Dark Skeleton Hellhound
  Elephant
  Ghost
  Giant Black Cave Bat
  Giant Fire Sprite
  Giant Golden Spider
  Giant Red Needle Leg Spider
  Giant Skeleton
  Goblin Hunter
  Goblin Hunter Archer
  Goblin Keeper
  Goblin Keeper Archer
  Goblin Sword Master
  Golem
  Gold Kiwi
  Gorgon
  Green Horn Cobra
  Green Sarracenia
  Gremlin
  Guard Light Gargoyle
  Heavy Gargoyle
  Imp
  Invisible Imp
  Jackal
  Light Gargoyle
  Lost Cave Sahagin
  Maned Aardvark
  Mask Goblin
  Merrow (Fake)
  Merrow (Real)
  New Gremlin Black
  Ogre Butcher
  Pirate Skeleton
  Rat Man
  Red Lynx
  Red Needle leg Spider
  Red Spider Wasp
  Sheep Wolf
  Skeleton Armor Ogre
  Small Golem
  Small Horn Gnu
  Timber Wolf
  Turtle
  White Head Lama
  Wild Dog
  Wild Horse
  Yellow Giant Wasp
  
  ^ Mobs in Lord missions appearently
  
  No clue on the other thing about brionac tho, Kenero would need to give me more details on what i'd have to look for xD
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-06-12 07:08
  Take that melee, ranged, and fighter! Time for alchemy, magic, gunner, and puppetry to take the metagame!
  
  ALL HAIL PUPPETEER MASTER RACE! [S]Yukari made me say it.[/S]
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-12 07:47
  I say it's boss tag, because in the xml, it really does label them as BOSS. Or to similar extent.
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-06-12 08:21

  Quote from Zekkii;1105018:

  ALL HAIL PUPPETEER MASTER RACE! [S]Yukari will say it[/S]

  
  
  Fixed that for you.
  
  ALL HAIL GLORIOUS PUPPET MASTER RACE
• uoi100 wrote on 2013-06-12 10:40
  ma tourney mobs aren't affected?
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-06-12 10:41
  They are affected by elementals. Crash shot in there with ego bow = god mode
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-06-12 11:12

  Quote from truefire;1104965:

  They may make elemental-immune mobs, but they won't nerf elementals. Why would they directly nerf what gives them money? The removal of elemental reforges from guns was indirect. Besides, if they really wanted to go there, they'd have retroactively nerfed the few elemental guns that came into existence.

  
  
  But this is already a massive nerf to elemental as it stands. You don't need elemental to blaze through NPC or SMs. So why bother spending the money for ele when all you can do with it is hit higher numbers in non-endgame content?
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-06-12 11:14

  Quote from Perfectio;1105085:

  But this is already a massive nerf to elemental as it stands. You don't need elemental to blaze through NPC or SMs. So why bother spending the money for ele when all you can do with it is hit higher numbers in non-endgame content?

  
  
  You don't need it but it makes it even faster. Faster exp = best exp
• Tetosan wrote on 2013-06-12 11:47

  Quote from uoi100;1105080:

  ma tourney mobs aren't affected?

  
  
  Notice how there's ONLY Cor mobs listed?
  yes?
  Then you'll see that MA Tourney mobs seem to be affected by Elemental Reforges :3
  
  These Cor mobs ONLY apply to their G17s4 and probably G18 equivalents