Mini-Guide: Party Healing!

• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 10:32
  Hiya, all!
  With G11 here, party healing is uncapped!
  But it's also changed!
  Now it uses a lot of mana and uses one BIG heal as opposed to 5 small ones!
  
  This makes it harder to train in a normal method unless you use potions. :<
  
  
  But have no fear!
  This mini-guide should help you train up this nice skill rather easily, provided you have friends to help you!
  
  [SIZE="5"]*NEWS FLASH*[/SIZE]
  Contrary to what it says on the wiki, you do NOT need to be in deadly to get training exp. Critical HP, that is <20% Max HP, is sufficient to train party healing. (Be aware that I'm only sure about the critical HP part for ranks 6~1 since I can't remember before that rank.)
  
  
  [SIZE="5"]Starting Out.[/SIZE]
  
  This Guide is very general. As is, it should work for every rank of this skill.
  
  What You'll need....
  At least THREE people.
  This training method takes advantage of Elf v Giant pvp.
  CONNOUS ARENA DOESN'T TRAIN HEALING, SO SORRY!
  
  You'll need 1 person to be on your side of the E v G and one on the opposite. It's recommended the opposing person can hurt you all really badly since Party Healing heals a lot and you need to be in critical health OR in deadly. (Or at least it doesn't need deadly heals up to r3).
  
  Since you need 3 people in critical health to heal for the best exp you can either have a pet on your side to act as the 3rd person or hurt the person hurting you and have everyone in the same party, or just get a 3rd person for your team, but you can all be in the same party so you can heal everyone. Don't get killed. Make sure everyone taking hits has over 50% max hp when they do get hit. This will ensure they go deadly instead of dying.
  
  
  [SIZE="5"]Next Important Item[/SIZE]
  MANA TUNNEL.
  With this skills high MP consumption, you'll want to be near one of these babies.
  BUT since you'll have EvG pvp on, you'll want to be at a remote mana tunnel to avoid... mishaps.
  
  Daytime is the best time to do this as the mana tunnel will be OPEN xD
  
  Also recommended, a Tikka Wood Healing Wand upgraded with -45% MP Usage.
  This helps higher ranks of Party Healing stay within the range of the Mana Tunnel's restoration rate.
  
  Once you get everything setup, it should look KIND OF like this badly painted MASTERPIECE here...
  

  [Image: http://a.imageshack.us/img641/4355/partyhealingsetup.jpg]

  
  
  Have the attacker (Red) hit all 3 on your team with a non-wounding high damage area attack like Windmill or Fireball.
  
  Afterwards Heal up using party heal. Make sure EVERYONE on your team has over 50% max HP.
  
  
  Keep doing this and you should have little trouble training up Party Healing ^o^
  
  [SIZE="5"] Visual Example! Oh Joy![/SIZE]
  [video=youtube;z8vvUjJvRwM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8vvUjJvRwM[/video]
  
  
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  Ah, well that's basically it, I think.
  Just a mini-guide on how to use the PvP system in a more helpful manner. xD
  
  I hope this works as well for other people as it did for me!
  +Rep if this isn't a totally useless guide xD
  Or if you love my paint skillz o3o
• Justified wrote on 2010-08-14 11:11
  Having people with extremely low hp might be better. Each hit will knock them into deadly so you get more prof, and each heal will restore them to full HP (depending on base HP). Depending on how much damage the attacker is doing, this could be better (if the person does more damage, high HP tankers would be better since they'll go deep into deadly. On the other hand, with low HP targets the attacker can go barehanded and save dur).
  
  Although iirc, Healing doesn't give prof if you overheal (if they're hurt 30 and you heal 40, you don't get prof) but I'm not sure if Party Heal works that way... or if I'm imagining that to begin with.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 11:31
  No you're right about Healing not getting prof for overheal, but party heal doe give prof for overheals.
  Also the reason tankers aren't always the best is because you'll want all 3 of the people hurt get hurt to have ~the same HP just so it's easier to keep track of how many heals are needed to get back to 50+% HP.
  
  It doesn't really matter in the long run, but since I'm assuming that most mages aren't swimming in HP that they'll want low HP people as well.
  But of course, it'd be best if you could have 3 people including yourself with HP 300 or so go into maximum deadly (-100%?) so you could get the most exp per hit.
  
  But as long as you can get any training, this method SHOULD work.
  I hope!
  
  
  But anyways, like you were wondering, Party Healing DOES give exp for overheal.
  But Healing does not.
  
  
  
  Also, funfact.
  Party Healing critical people ALSO counts towards Healing training xD
• Phanterz wrote on 2010-08-14 12:50

  Quote from Iyasenu;124808:

  No you're right about Healing not getting prof for overheal, but party heal doe give prof for overheals.
  Also the reason tankers aren't always the best is because you'll want all 3 of the people hurt get hurt to have ~the same HP just so it's easier to keep track of how many heals are needed to get back to 50+% HP.
  
  It doesn't really matter in the long run, but since I'm assuming that most mages aren't swimming in HP that they'll want low HP people as well.
  But of course, it'd be best if you could have 3 people including yourself with HP 300 or so go into maximum deadly (-100%?) so you could get the most exp per hit.
  
  But as long as you can get any training, this method SHOULD work.
  I hope!
  
  
  But anyways, like you were wondering, Party Healing DOES give exp for overheal.
  But Healing does not.
  
  
  
  Also, funfact.
  Party Healing critical people ALSO counts towards Healing training xD

  
  
  If overheals don't count, get a few people with 1HP and have them windmill stuff?
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 12:52

  Quote from Phanterz;124820:

  If overheals don't count, get a few people with 1HP and have them windmill stuff?

  
  
  where are you gonna find 3 people like that D:
  
  but it WOULD work
• Justified wrote on 2010-08-14 13:00

  Quote from Iyasenu;124821:

  where are you gonna find 3 people like that D:
  
  but it WOULD work

  
  
  Our guild has like 5 or 6 of those :>
  I was gonna mention sulfer pits (since each tick would send everybody into deadly) but the mana tunnel there is probably too far to be efficient.
  
  The only problem with high HP tankers is that you'd also need high damage to get them far into auto-deadly. Unless you use Ice Spear + Fire Elementals, you'd be stuck with much slower skills or relying on crits to get deep deadly - and then the wasted durability on the Ice Wand might not be worth it.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 13:04

  Quote from Justified;124825:

  Our guild has like 5 or 6 of those :>
  I was gonna mention sulfer pits (since each tick would send everybody into deadly) but the mana tunnel there is probably too far to be efficient.
  
  The only problem with high HP tankers is that you'd also need high damage to get them far into auto-deadly. Unless you use Ice Spear + Fire Elementals, you'd be stuck with much slower skills or relying on crits to get deep deadly - and then the wasted durability on the Ice Wand might not be worth it.

  
  
  well this tactic does rely on mana tunnels so we just used fireball.
  despite it's cast time we still managed over 50 point of training from 6am to 12pm at rank 4
  so no matter which way you slice it, as long as you go into deadly, you should be able to train this way pretty easily.
  
  
  also, 5 or 6? xD
  Wowz i've not even met that many.
  
  
  actually the time spent casting fireball was spent casting party healing to bring up everyone's HP to 50+% so in the big scheme fireball is pretty good for this since you won't be firing off an attack til everyone's healed up proper.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-08-14 14:56
  Ranks F ~ A can be trained just by receiving healing from others, if I can remember correctly. :)
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 15:01

  Quote from Phunkie;124854:

  Ranks F ~ A can be trained just by receiving healing from others, if I can remember correctly. :)

  
  
  Oh close, but not fully trained.
  You must heal yourself in deadly for the most training.
  Some of the earlier ranks actually NEED some party healing.
  
  That alone, for ranks F~A, can train a good portion of the skill.
  
  I believe it was from C to A that you could actually fully train the skill just by healing yourself indeadly.
  
  
  But yes, for the ranks before r9 you can use healing to train it a good portion instead of party healing.
  Good memeory :p
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-08-14 15:36
  Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the correction!
  
  I'm gonna be putting up Party Healing for the delicious Master title soon.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 15:39

  Quote from Phunkie;124874:

  Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the correction!
  
  I'm gonna be putting up Party Healing for the delicious Master title soon.

  
  
  I want that delicious title too xD
  
  But then again I like acting as a healer :p
• Archibald wrote on 2010-08-14 19:04
  I'm saving ap for shock atm or I'd do this. Thanks for the fireball tip.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-08-14 19:15
  I'm hoping for a more comprehensive guide...
  But not immediately, magic is way far off for me.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-14 19:25

  Quote from Yogurticecream;124971:

  I'm hoping for a more comprehensive guide...
  But not immediately, magic is way far off for me.

  
  
  Oh, whatcha mean comprehensive? :X
  
  I can try to record what we do the next time my friends have free time. :X
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-08-15 02:45

  Quote from Iyasenu;124982:

  Oh, whatcha mean comprehensive? :X
  
  I can try to record what we do the next time my friends have free time. :X

  
  Like what you have to do for each party healing rank.
  Been seeing a group of DKs standing near mana tunnels in the first few weeks that it came out over here.