Mega Mosque near ground zero?

• abc33kr wrote on 2010-08-24 01:26

  Quote from Shirayuki;134981:

  They may have accepted it, but it isn't the literal translation. Bye now.
  
  The word Quran starts with the Arabic letter Ù‚, or qaf.

  
  
  Koran is Koran.
  
  Even if it is wrong, some things are better off as they are.
  
  For example,
  Korea <- dae han min gook
  Japan <- Nipon (lol its actually funny how japan got its name. first chinese made it easier for them to say. then western ppl came and made it easier for them to say)
  China <-Chûng-koet
  
  
  Thus, since Americans don't have muslim tongue, Quran -> Koran.
• Beepuke wrote on 2010-08-24 19:13
  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/opinion/22rich.html
  
  Not to spark another raging one sided debate or anything, but here's a perspective on the mosque witten in the NYTimes recently. It kind of makes a general outline of how this entire mosque issue really paints a terrible picture of how Americans are Islamophobic and how this entire issue seems to be politically motivated. :x
• Dusk wrote on 2010-08-25 01:57
  I personally don't care that it is being build because I don't actually believe that muslims did 9/11. I guess you could call me a conspiracist, but I honestly don't believe a word that the government has said about it.
  
  WTC = "steel structure was weaked by the fire and caused the buildings to collapse."
  
  First off, the fire wasn't even distributed throughout the entire building. How could a fire in one part of the building cause an entire massive reinforced steel structure, which was designed to withstand fires and plane crashes, to collapse? Molten steel was found within the remains. Not weakened steel. Melted, molten steel. Steel melts at around 1370 degrees Celsius, or about 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. Jet fuel burns at a maximum of about 1000 degrees Celsius, and it was only that high for about 15 - 20 minutes within the WTC. The rest of the time it was only around 600 degrees Celsius. The temperature may have weakened the steel, but not melted it, which is what was found. But the government says that the steel was only weakened. It doesn't make any sense.
  
  If the muslims did do it, the government allowed it. yay conspiracy
  
  btw, as stated before, there's already been a Mosque 4 blocks away from ground zero for a LONG time now. Putting one 2 blocks closer wont be a difference.
• Virtue wrote on 2010-08-25 15:48

  Quote from Shirayuki;134792:

  The minds of modern society should be far more open though, since the knowledge of people now is grater than the knowledge of people when other religious or ethnic groups were being stereotyped.

  Liberal belief in total*vagueness, without any direction unless *it has "Yeah!" factor to it, and logical fallacies all over the place - offence of ignoratio elenchi, moot point concerning time and human progression, misspelling of "Greater" and complete failure in understanding the "usage" of knowledge.
  

  Quote from Shirayuki;134792:

  So? What bad does it do? Really, there is NOTHING wrong with it.

  Draws attention to the fact that the terrorists were muslim... guaranteed to offend, and so obviously would that it is a tactic to do so... Arguably disrespectful to the dead... Stirring up levels of racial hatred, and fuelling an already well fuelled fire.
  

  Quote from Shirayuki;134834:

  It's not like people follow any religions as they were originally intended to be followed as. As far as we all know, the Bible was changed drastically throughout time, and the original meaning is lost forever.

  Citation needed.
  

  Quote from Shirayuki;134834:

  And it's not like Islam is different from many other religions. They follow one God, they find all life sacred, they denounce violence, etc.

  They denounce violence? It seems you don't understand the religion of Islam.
  

  Quote from Shirayuki;135010:

  It's not even mainly a mosque. It's really barely a mosque. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions, so the world should cater to that fact, shouldn't it?

  I see, I see a non sequitur!
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-25 16:18

  Quote from Virtue;136646:

  Liberal belief in total*vagueness, without any direction unless *it has "Yeah!" factor to it, and logical fallacies all over the place - offence of ignoratio elenchi, moot point concerning time and human progression, misspelling of "Greater" and complete failure in understanding the "usage" of knowledge.
  Draws attention to the fact that the terrorists were muslim... guaranteed to offend, and so obviously would that it is a tactic to do so... Arguably disrespectful to the dead... Stirring up levels of racial hatred, and fuelling an already well fuelled fire.
  Citation needed.
  They denounce violence? It seems you don't understand the religion of Islam.
  I see, I see a non sequitur!

  
  
  Kay, let's go build a church together Zeroo.
• wolfram wrote on 2010-08-25 17:01

  Quote from Beepuke;135969:

  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/opinion/22rich.html
  
  Not to spark another raging one sided debate or anything, but here's a perspective on the mosque witten in the NYTimes recently. It kind of makes a general outline of how this entire mosque issue really paints a terrible picture of how Americans are Islamophobic and how this entire issue seems to be politically motivated. :x

  
  
  The article just attacks the prominent names (mostly republicans) that have spoken out against the mosque.