They May Get Rid of Deafness Soon

• Cyrene wrote on 2013-08-06 19:34
  I've met a lot of deaf people and mute and I've learned you shouldn't take pity on them at all. They are just as smart as any non deaf person would be. I've taken hand sign classes and its just amazing how so much is possible. Sign language is almost perfectly universal for all countrys. I believe that this is a good thing because it now gives them nothing more than a choice. They deserve that choice. Some are proud of their deaf culture and their feats are amazing.
  
  But there will always be that kid in school who gets picked on by others because those parents didn't teach those kids that they weren't any different from the deaf kid. Because that kid still has the potential to run just as fast, talk just as well, dance just fine, play football, play basketball, go pro. Sorry for rambling
• Campylobacter jejuni wrote on 2013-08-07 15:38
  You listed the least important achievements ever, but your idea is correct.
• Taycat wrote on 2013-08-07 15:57

  Quote from Zeo;1132223:

  It is considered rude to think deaf people cannot speak, if I read your post right.
  
  But yes, after all those years of silent, some deaf people will have difficult time getting used to the sound. Even forcing the 'hearing' onto very young people such as babies who is deaf, won't always work.
  
  I was born deaf but I can talk just fine with almost no difference compared to a hearing person.
  
  While it may be frustrating to communicate with deaf people for most of you guys. There's many ways to communicate, like the old-style paper and pen, to texting messages.

  
  
  Not all of those who are deaf have near perfect speech. Some cannot and therefore they are the ones Snowie was referring to, I believe.
• Thorne wrote on 2013-08-12 14:50

  Quote from Zeo;1132212:

  So... seeing that I myself am deaf in real life...
  
  I don't really see that as a good news since it might will destroy a deaf culture and deaf community in the future.
  
  I can understand a cure for older people that lose hearing as they age, but being deaf is not really a "health problem" as many hearing people out there are making it seem to be. It's pretty disgusting and I don't know if I should be offended at such a 'discovery'.

  
  
  Deaf culture and community...? How is this a bad thing? Why should you be offended? I think you're taking things a little bit too personally.
  
  People are looking to help others, I think that's a great thing.
• Intimacy wrote on 2013-08-12 14:55
  No reason to be so butt hurt over nothing, people are trying to help other people, end of story. The butt bleeding is not needed LOL
• Seaov wrote on 2013-08-12 15:04
  While the people who are currently deaf would get to choose whether they want to hear or not, I see this more as being something that they implement with infants whom they can deduce as being deaf so that they will be able to grow accustom to actually hearing than like teens and up who are deaf who might have a form of, idk "shell shock" is the best way I could describe it as happening. While I don't doubt that people would grow accustom to it, It would still be tough.
  
  Just based off my own experiences with deaf and partially-deaf people they would also have to learn to understand and speak their language. Which I have no idea how hard that would be but I could see it as being a major obstacle and quite possibly why some might choose not to get such a treatment done.
  
  Of course this is all just speculation on my part.
• Osayidan wrote on 2013-08-12 17:41
  Just because you're proud of being deaf doesn't mean this is in any way offensive.
  No one is kidnapping and strapping you to a operating table to force this or any other treatment on you so what's the problem?
  People are supposed to have their 5 senses and for those who lack one or more of those senses, having the option to gain them is great.
  
  [video=youtube;LsOo3jzkhYA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA[/video]
• Valkyrio wrote on 2013-08-12 23:15

  Quote from Zeo;1132212:

  So... seeing that I myself am deaf in real life...
  
  I don't really see that as a good news since it might will destroy a deaf culture and deaf community in the future.
  
  I can understand a cure for older people that lose hearing as they age, but being deaf is not really a "health problem" as many hearing people out there are making it seem to be. It's pretty disgusting and I don't know if I should be offended at such a 'discovery'.

  
  
  No. You should not be offended. No one should be offended. Like it or not, it is a health issue. It might be something people have learned to accept, and they might be capable of doing everything else a normal person can, but it ultimately is a health issue. Continuation of deaf community/culture is no reason to let a child be born missing one of his senses.
• Zeo wrote on 2013-08-13 00:52

  Quote from Valkyrio;1135019:

  No. You should not be offended. No one should be offended. Like it or not, it is a health issue. It might be something people have learned to accept, and they might be capable of doing everything else a normal person can, but it ultimately is a health issue. Continuation of deaf community/culture is no reason to let a child be born missing one of his senses.

  
  
  Hearing people would totally let child get cured with hearing right away, but as for deaf parents, most of them have the options and some of them would say no as well.
  
  But I don't get why few of you guys suddenly got so defensive about "deaf communitiy" and "health issue" and decide to misuse the term of "butthurt" in here anyway.
  
  Deaf is not a health issue, period. It's a handicap/disability, and people being deaf does not get hurt, sick, or killed in any ways.
  
  Like I said in earlier post. I can understand the cure due to people who became deaf from illness, or losing hearing due to age.
  
  

  Quote from Thorne;1134900:

  Deaf culture and community...? How is this a bad thing? Why should you be offended? I think you're taking things a little bit too personally.
  
  People are looking to help others, I think that's a great thing.

  
  
  I actually appreciate you being respectful about it. People do try to help each other, however... Many deaf people get treated like a shit because hearing people tried to pressure them into being able to hear so they can be part of the "hearing" world.
  
  I may be taking it too personally, but being in a deaf world is a wonderful thing for me, in my opinion. I get to be able to socialize with other deaf people using sign language, and get to see more of the facial expression and body expression. They did not need to try and kill off the "world".
  
  I've actually heard of some stories about governments in US that tried to "encourage" deaf people to be homosexual, so they couldn;t "produce" more Deaf babies.
• Valkyrio wrote on 2013-08-13 01:02

  Quote from Zeo;1135043:

  Hearing people would totally let child get cured with hearing right away, but as for deaf parents, most of them have the options and some of them would say no as well.
  
  But I don't get why few of you guys suddenly got so defensive about "deaf communitiy" and "health issue" and decide to misuse the term of "butthurt" in here anyway.
  
  Deaf is not a health issue, period. It's a handicap/disability, and people being deaf does not get hurt, sick, or killed in any ways.
  
  Like I said in earlier post. I can understand the cure due to people who became deaf from illness, or losing hearing due to age.

  
  
  A disability is a health issue. Someone who is missing an arm or leg can also "not get hurt, sick, or killed in any ways."
  
  Any parent that would be able to cure something like deafness in their child and would choose not to is being selfish and irresponsible.
• Zeo wrote on 2013-08-13 01:22
  "Leaving children deaf is selfish and irresponsible".
  
  That is one of the most offensive things I've ever heard disregarding involving Deaf people.
  
  Trying to force hearing aids, or implant them is just as selfish as it could be, because they couldn't accept the fact that they're deaf and they want to be fitted into their "hearing world".
  ....
  
  Yes, your child is deaf. You can cope, you can deal with it. You can teach your child that they are okay and nothing is wrong with them . . . YOU CAN LOVE THEM! You can teach them everything you want them to know. And when the time comes when they are old enough to make decisions of their own . . . they can try this "hearing cure". It’s a big risk and a very big decision to make. We want what’s best for our children. My point is there are a lot worse things than being DEAF. AND WHY BE NORMAL?
  
  This is why I can tell other parents that being deaf is nothing compared to what other disability your child could have. Being deaf does not mean the end of life . . or the end. I can only say, be grateful that DEAF is the only thing “wrong” with your child. There is nothing “wrong” with being deaf.
  
  Whatever disability you have, there is nothing wrong with you. There's some "cures" yes... and they have the choice to not do it.
• Cynic wrote on 2013-08-13 02:10
  But WHY cope when you don't have to? Disabilities ARE NOT good things. Being born deformed is not a good thing. Being born with hearing/vision/speaking problems are not good things. Having physical disabilities as a result of illnesses are not good things. Have mental disabilities are not good things.
  
  The list goes on and on.
  
  And no - people shouldn't have to be ashamed or treated differently because of their disability. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still not a good thing.
  
  Like Osay said - we are meant to hear. It's not normal to have a lack of hearing. It puts the child at an unnecessary disadvantage. And the kicker? There are no positive sides to having a disability. That's kind of the whole dang point.
  
  Forcing a kid to do something wrong would be piercing their ears, or having them get a tattoo, or circumcision. It's not wrong to allow your kid to get treatment for their disability. Unless you think parents should also prevent their kids from getting flu shots and other necessary procedures as well. Because hey - who cares that it's abuse to neglect your child and their health?
  
  The only reason you're okay with living as a deaf person is because you've had to live with it. If you tried to change things up now, it would be extremely difficult to get accustomed to - if at all. But we're not really talking about people like you. We're talking about people who don't want to be deaf. We're talking about people who have the chance to regain their hearing before they ever realize it's missing.
  
  It will not harm them in any way. It's not a bad thing because there's nothing bad about it. It is, however, a good thing because it will do good.
  
  It's cruel to force a child to have to live with a disability because selfish people like you try to force their views on other people. Just because you're okay with living as a deaf person doesn't mean that other people will.
  
  So, let's summarize:
  
  - Curing children of their deafness will result in them being able to hear like they should've in the first place. Depending on what age this occurs at, there will be little to no problems adjusting. They won't have to suffer because of being deaf, they won't have to deal with all of the problems that come with being deaf, and they won't ever have to worry about getting too old to use a cure for their deafness.
  
  - Or, we go your way, and don't allow parents to treat their kids. This will result in the kid becoming accustomed to being deaf. Having to struggle with all of the troubles of being deaf. They'll constantly feel different than everyone else. And even though there's nothing to be ashamed of - they will never be like the other kids. Weaker children will grow up with various insecurities and issues as a result, while even the stronger ones will likely feel the emotional and psychological affects of this issues. By the time they're old enough to "decide" by your standards, it will be too late. Even if they are given the cure, it will be ridiculously hard for them to get accustomed to it, if they ever do. They will now have to live at a disadvantage at the rest of their lives because their parents were too selfish to help them fix what was wrong with them. Now, even if they don't want to be deaf - that choice will have been taken away from them.
  
  A disability is a disability. Stop glorying people's problems just because you like to pretend being deaf isn't a shitty thing.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-08-13 02:11
  Never thought there would be butthurt over this....
• Zeo wrote on 2013-08-13 02:24
  Uhh.. being deaf is not really a shitty thing. o-o;
  
  Like I said in previous posts. I can understand if deafness is a problem to people who lost their hearings due to illness or from age.
  
  But it'll be a problem when a child was born being deaf. I will be upset about that because it'll kill the community for the deaf people.
  
  And if you guys didn't know. I had an cochlear implant implanted to me when I was a baby, and I grew up being forced to use it and it's causing me more stress and anxiety than it is, to actually grow up deaf. Deaf people still get treated as normal people, and they can go through a normal education with right resources.
  
  Maybe it is not "normal" to not have sense, but it's natural for when people are born with disability(s). Like I said in my previous post, there's many worse things that could've happened to you, rather than being deaf, that and there's also many worse things that can happen to your newborn baby.
  
  If you didn't know, if you don't have one out of all five senses available, one of your other senses will be stronger to make up for the loss of that sense.
  
  Deaf may be not a good thing, but only because you're making it seem to be NOT a good thing.
  
  I am honestly getting tired of people throwing insults toward Deaf people in this thread, just because they had no experience being around the deaf community.
• Murasaki wrote on 2013-08-13 04:04
  Just because you don't think it's a shitty thing, doesn't mean others will agree with you. Some deaf people don't want to be helped with this, but other people do. Moreover, I think the only one getting really defensive in this thread is you.
  
  Deafness happens to be a handicap that interferes with the way many deaf people function. Not all of them will be bothered by this, and some people deal with this sort of thing better than others, but the truth is that deafness can cause problems for deaf people and the people that need to deal with them.
  
  I've known different kinds of deaf people throughout my life, and have run into them while doing my job. Some seemed uncomfortable in general, while one of them casually used their phone to type out what they wanted from me, or pointed to the menu.
  
  In any case. Don't be offended. This being deaf buisness isn't like being gay. No one's denying you rights based on the fact that you're deaf. If you don't like this, just don't do it. No one is forcing you to do this, people are just sharing their findings.
  
  Deaf community and culture? You actually make them sound more alienated that way. Being born deaf isn't exactly a good thing. Parents having their child not having a disability isn't like a parent giving their little baby piercings. Humans are meant to be able to hear things, and our communication is largely verbal. People aren't making it look like a bad thing. It just is. Sure, we have things like the internet now, where communicating without being able to hear or speak is pretty easy, but being able to hear and speak without having to deal with certain barriers is pretty damn nice for some people.
  
  

  If you didn't know, if you don't have one out of all five senses available, one of your other senses will be stronger to make up for the loss of that sense.

  
  
  A lot of blind people have stated that this is not the case. Apart from serving smoothies, I also work at an eyeglasses place. It's not that their senses get better. It's their skills at compensating for things that are lacking that improve.