[Mabinogi] - Shooting Rush Information and Animation

• xtraspicy wrote on 2013-08-06 22:48
  Pretty much what Gen says except that for Shooting Rush specifically, you cannot be hit or targeted until the attack enters recovery.
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-08-06 23:36

  Quote from Gensokyou;1132418:

  A way of explaining it in Mabinogi terms would be that it gives you temporary advanced heavy stander.
  
  Without the passive defences. So you can't be knocked down/knocked back/be interrupted, but you can still take damage.

  
  
  This. No need to call it super armor/giant armor bullshit. Act 7 work in the same way, this ain't some new feature/core mechanic being add to mabi.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2013-08-07 00:11
  ^ Except if you mentioned the term hyper/super armor in another gaming community, they'd more or less know what you're talking about.
  
  It's just a term that's making it's way into general gaming terminology.
  
  It's just like saying something like "invincibility frames".
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-08-07 06:44
  I would call them invulnerability frames.
• Herro wrote on 2013-08-07 06:49

  Quote from Zekkii;1132732:

  I would call them invulnerability frames.

  
  
  that only applies if you cannot be harmed.
  
  Shooting rush, to put it simply, acts as a teleporter. the the second the player uses the skill he/she is "teleported" to the end location. skills that attack the starting location, mid location, or anywhere that isn't the ending location will count as a miss, however if you were to have something planted in the end location itll still connect (as in if a fb were to land at the end location, even before you finish the skill you'll get hit
• Psy wrote on 2013-08-07 07:26

  Quote from Zekkii;1132732:

  I would call them invulnerability frames.

  
  Not that I'm too knowledgeable with English gaming terminology, but doesn't invulnerability frames mean you cannot be hurt at all? (Which doesn't apply in this case.)
• drezzt wrote on 2013-08-07 07:32

  Quote from Psy;1132787:

  Not that I'm too knowledgeable with English gaming terminology, but doesn't invulnerability frames mean you cannot be hurt at all? (Which doesn't apply in this case.)

  
  
  The general term is invincibility frames, but zekkii is trying to place emphasis on the fact that you do take damage, but the word invulnerable means "impossible to harm or damage" if you google it..so... invulnerability frames means the same thing as invincibility frames.
• Psy wrote on 2013-08-07 07:40
  Ah, then that doesn't apply in this case since you can still be hit at the end of the teleportation location if another player gets hit by an AoE nearby that area (windmill, fireball, thunder, etc).
  
  So there's no difference between invincibility and invulnerability?
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-08-07 07:57

  Quote from drezzt;1132794:

  The general term is invincibility frames, but zekkii is trying to place emphasis on the fact that you do take damage, but the word invulnerable means "impossible to harm or damage" if you google it..so... invulnerability frames means the same thing as invincibility frames.

  
  To be fair it means 'not vulnerable', which doesn't exactly mean you are invincible. Trouble arises because some people don't make that distinction and the very definition starts to vary, so it is hardly perfect. It might confuse people a little, but it should tip people off that the word invincibility is not used. In any case, I at least prefer it to 'hyper armor' which means relatively nothing to me. To be perfectly honest, we should probably stick with 'the skill will be executed regardless of damage taken'.
• drezzt wrote on 2013-08-12 06:31

  Quote from Zekkii;1132816:

  To be fair it means 'not vulnerable', which doesn't exactly mean you are invincible. Trouble arises because some people don't make that distinction and the very definition starts to vary, so it is hardly perfect. It might confuse people a little, but it should tip people off that the word invincibility is not used. In any case, I at least prefer it to 'hyper armor' which means relatively nothing to me. To be perfectly honest, we should probably stick with 'the skill will be executed regardless of damage taken'.

  
  
  Well, its googles definition.
  and the definition of several online dictionaries for that matter.
  -cries- ITS NOT MY FAULT ;-;