9/11 12 years on.

• Doger481 wrote on 2013-09-12 12:14

  Quote from Ashikoki;1147269:

  Raaaacisssst
  
  [video=youtube;TXNwbFVd3Xc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXNwbFVd3Xc[/video]
  
  Anyways, all this is pretty naturally human, but I try to be as objective as possible. When I said "meh" I really did mean it more like "oh that is very unfortunate", but at the same time I don't let it get to me because it doesn't actually have any meaning towards my life.

  
  
  You are right on that. I apologize for coming off as racist :<
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2013-09-13 15:47

  Quote from Drizzit;1147164:

  I nearly cut myself on that edge.

  
  It's just true. At the time I thought it was a total accident and that this stuff happened all the time, so I didn't really care. I seriously thought planes just crashed into things sometimes and people died from random accidents. And, well, they kind of do. But not nearly as much as I thought at all.
  
  I wasn't even aware it was a terrorist attack (or a big deal) until I found out later.
  
  To this day, the real devastation to me is the fact that we've seriously disrupted our country over it. Or rather, we've used it as an excuse to do so. That's what 9/11 will always mean to me. It always sucks when people die unnecessarily, but let's face it, we've got more important things to worry about like cancer. They're just not someone's "fault" in the same way this was, so we get really morally offended by it.
  
  I'm not saying that just because something worse is going on that it makes something not as bad not matter, but I'm saying we should prioritize the most prominent threats and it's almost like we've got it completely backwards. Either we're letting emotions override common sense or we don't actually care about this because of our health and security, but rather because we want to see people we don't like (for a very valid reason!) suffer. And I understand that, but we should at least be honest about it first and foremost.
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-09-13 16:01

  Quote from Aubog007;1147441:

  I get angered at the conspiracy nuts
  Never have i raged so hard over people so damn stupid

  
  
  Yep, no government in history has ever staged a catastrophic event in order to drum up popular support for a given policy.
  
  Not saying 9/11 was a conspiracy (there's lots of evidence it wasn't) but it's stupid to simply dismiss the idea.
• Ketchup wrote on 2013-09-13 16:28
  I was in middle school at the time. All i remember was being pissed that there was nothing but that on TV.
• Osayidan wrote on 2013-09-14 13:32

  Quote from Perfectio;1148029:

  Yep, no government in history has ever staged a catastrophic event in order to drum up popular support for a given policy.
  
  Not saying 9/11 was a conspiracy (there's lots of evidence it wasn't) but it's stupid to simply dismiss the idea.

  
  
  9/11 was at the very minimum a conspiracy,plotted by the people who organized it and did it.
  What's not agreed on is who or why.
  
  People didn't wake up one morning and just felt like crashing planes into a variety of targets, so by definition it was a conspiracy.
• TheKartheus wrote on 2013-09-14 15:46

  Quote from Time;1147210:

  I never said you should feel more inclined to feel bad because it happened in America. No, feeling bad doesn't bring back the dead, and no it doesn't accomplish anything. I dont mean feeling upset later, I just mean at the initial moment. Yes people forget about things, yes people move on,and so yes it is a bit pointless to feel bad about something that doesnt directly influence you. But I cant imagine myself not feeling anything when something tragic is directly displayed in front of me.
  
  Yes people die every day, (and yes I did spell die wrong in my OP, I did not proof read) however this is a different matter, as it commonly isnt displayed to you, it is the norm, its always happening. However when this is displayed to you, or any tragic event is displayed to you, I could never describe my emotions as "meh" because my emotions would never be comparable to "meh". I understand its not necessarily logical, but I wouldnt want to be a person who could watch a tragedy and not experiencing more than indifference due to it not influencing me. Keep in mind I'm not talking about generations or even years later, I'm only speaking of the event in live time.
  
  I dont think people dont care, I dont think people condition themselves to care. In my mind people would have to actively hold themselves to a purposefully conditioned state to watch a tragedy and not experience more in-depth feelings while its occurring despite the illogical nature.
  
  In this way, during an event, it is "in front of you" its occurring in the world at that moment. Please dont think I'm some 9/11 AMERICA! individual, no, this relates to Syria, any tragedy.
  
  Anyway, thank you for taking the time to respond, its interesting to read other viewpoints.
  
  
  Edit: Perhaps you would determine the original outburst of emotion as false due to a lack of emotion later on? That the initial flash-bulb of watching a tragedy isnt true emotion due to it fading over time?

  
  
  It's harder for people to feel things when it's only an idea. Most footage I've seen of 9/11 is censored, you just see the plane hitting and the building falling. You know people in there died, but you don't see them. You don't feel the fear of the people on the plane. There are some really dark videos on the internet.
  Real videos of people being killed. Even though only one or two people die in these videos, I can't watch it because it's so awful. The towers falling though? That's nothing.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2013-09-20 21:50
  It's interesting to hear the viewpoints of people who weren't affected, but I have to wonder if anyone here was affected by it.
  
  For me, my dad was supposed to be in the towers that day. I could've lost him, so yeah I still think about it.