Puppets or Poopets?

• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-23 03:25

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1162090:

  Im just saying you can stil use Pupets well saying theyre worthless unless of course you buy 3 kids other then that you can still if you solo using puppets well

  
  
  Puppets utility is basically dead with this pet.... There is no skillset that is completely useless, however you no longer need puppets to worry about getting everything into a nice little cluster to aoe....
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-10-23 03:45
  [Image: http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6895/zekv.png]

  
  
  This diagram illustrates why player-based crisis retains majority of use. This is of course, assuming the pet does turn out to have 500 crisis range with all the knowledge currently available. The area of certainty is the area of which you can guarantee the pet will crisis around you, the area surrounding it is the area of the pet's crisis around itself, and the final and largest circle is the maximum range of a marionette's crisis around itself. Perhaps the most key point here is the numbers of area, with the puppets crisis offering 2.25x as much as the pet's assuming they both are in the right location. Please, don't be fooled by the fact the pet's crisis is illustrated as taking up almost as much space as normal crisis. Here is a the image when the layers trade places:
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/r3MWtOn.png]

  
  Perhaps we could learn from it, and not state that a crisis that would gather a couple mobs is better than a crisis that can gather the entirety of the MA lineup 100% of the time regardless of the setup. Yes, the area is quite proportional to the actual use of the skill.
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-23 03:46

  Quote from Zekkii;1162103:

  [Image: http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6895/zekv.png]

  
  
  This diagram illustrates why player-based crisis retains majority of use. This is of course, assuming the pet does turn out to have 500 crisis range with all the knowledge currently available. The area of certainty is the area of which you can guarantee the pet will crisis around you, the area surrounding it is the area of the pet's crisis around itself, and the final and largest circle is the maximum range of a marionette's crisis around itself. Perhaps the most key point here is the numbers of area, with the puppets crisis offering 2.25x as much as the pet's assuming they both are in the right location. Please, don't be fooled by the fact the pet's crisis is illustrated as taking up almost as much space as normal crisis. Here is a the image when the layers trade places:
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/r3MWtOn.png]

  
  Perhaps we could learn from it, and not state that a crisis that would gather a couple mobs is better than a crisis that can gather the entirety of the MA lineup 100% of the time regardless of the setup. Yes, the area is quite proportional to the actual use of the skill.

  
  
  Simple fix to range, summon another pet.... Still easier then setting up a crisis with puppets...
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-10-23 03:56

  Quote from Pureblooded;1162108:

  Simple fix to range, summon another pet.... Still easier then setting up a crisis with puppets...

  
  You would have to wait for the enemies to get up or they would bounce on the spot, and you're still very unlikely to get as much enemies as you did with the puppet crisis. Think about actual uses, would you do this in MA? I certainly hope not because if you used crisis you could eliminate the entire wave instead of just 1/3 to 1/2 to majority at best. Would you try it in bandit hunting/commerce, or HM shadow missions? Well since you're likely to one-hit all enemies with your AOEs in HM/bandit hunting missions, it is unlikely you would bother (and it's unsummonable in commerce mode).
  
  So tell me, where do you use this?
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-23 03:59

  Quote from Zekkii;1162119:

  You would have to wait for the enemies to get up or they would bounce on the spot, and you're still very unlikely to get as much enemies as you did with the puppet crisis. Think about actual uses, would you do this in MA? I certainly hope not because if you used crisis you could eliminate the entire wave instead of just 1/3 to 1/2 to majority at best. Would you try it in bandit hunting/commerce, or HM shadow missions? Well since you're likely to one-hit all enemies with your AOEs in HM/bandit hunting missions, it is unlikely you would bother (and it's unsummonable in commerce mode).
  
  So tell me, where do you use this?

  
  
  Summon one in one area, immediately dessumon, and then go next to the pile with the ones u missed and summon another. They should be close enough to grab everything into 2 nice piles near u.... Honestly since i use crash shot with reforges for range theres no real place that i absolutely need crisis, however i can bowmill after if they dont die with a crisis'ed pile.... In any case, u use one and then use the next one to grab the extras and put them near the other pile....