Question on repair protection potions.

• Yogurticecream wrote on 2013-10-21 05:53
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Repair_Protection_Potion
  
  Just wanted to ask if we take a 0/60 durability item and then fail 3 points when going for full repair. Will the protection apply to all 3 failure points or will it only apply to 1 and the other 2 are not protected?
  
  Thanks!
• Bunny wrote on 2013-10-21 06:02
  [FONT="Arial"]I recently failed a repair on my bow at Edern with a protection potion on it.
  I'm fairly certain that the number of durability lost does not count, but rather the failure of the repair itself. (Which is one fail.)
  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.[/FONT]
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-10-21 06:08
  MY friend did a full repair on acc failed 2 of the5 and took 1 dura off
• Bunny wrote on 2013-10-21 06:12

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1161301:

  MY friend did a full repair on acc failed 2 of the5 and took 1 dura off

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]Hmm.. interesting. I take my statement back for now then. Weird how the potion description implies that it protects one failure regardless.. I suppose it's bad wording on Nexon's part. [/FONT]
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-10-21 06:15

  Quote from Bunny;1161302:

  [FONT="Arial"]Hmm.. interesting. I take my statement back for now then. Weird how the potion description implies that it protects one failure regardless.. I suppose it's bad wording on Nexon's part. [/FONT]

  It only protects one pt meaning if you failed 2 times you lose 1 dura since 1 was protected
• Bunny wrote on 2013-10-21 06:33

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1161303:

  It only protects one pt meaning if you failed 2 times you lose 1 dura since 1 was protected

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]"A potion that protects an item from being damaged when a repair fails. Use the potion on the item before you attempt to repair it. The potion's effect disappears after a repair fails."
  
  They made it sound like it protects the whole repair.. FIX IT NEXON[/FONT]
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-10-21 06:42

  Quote from Bunny;1161306:

  [FONT="Arial"]"A potion that protects an item from being damaged when a repair fails. Use the potion on the item before you attempt to repair it. The potion's effect disappears after a repair fails."
  
  They made it sound like it protects the whole repair.. FIX IT NEXON[/FONT]

  This is what Rican said with his Fierce Accs ;/
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2013-10-21 07:01
  There's a debate here given that someone actually tested and it was protection for one repair.
  According to this person, if you repair a 0/60 item and failed twice, it will be 58/60.
  
  Just not really sure which is the real deal.
• nana wrote on 2013-10-21 09:38
  [video=youtube;PWDNN1GzzNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDNN1GzzNI [/video]
  1/19 -> 17/19 (two fails upon full repair)
  
  yes, exactly what the Bunny-person said.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-10-21 10:53
  Maybe he did pt by pt then O_O
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2013-10-21 11:12

  Quote from nana;1161320:

  [video=youtube;PWDNN1GzzNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDNN1GzzNI [/video]
  1/19 -> 17/19 (two fails upon full repair)
  
  yes, exactly what the Bunny-person said.

  
  Thanks for confirming. I guess this would be enough proof to show.
  With all the misinformation floating around, I wasn't very sure what was happening. Some people were even convincing me to repair point by point, which wasn't answering my question.
• Bunny wrote on 2013-10-21 12:19

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1161309:

  This is what Rican said with his Fierce Accs ;/

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]I can read, you don't have to tell me three times :I[/FONT]
  
  

  Quote from Yogurticecream;1161337:

  Some people were even convincing me to repair point by point, which wasn't answering my question.

  
  [FONT="Arial"]
  Apparently the reason for one-point repairs is because full repairs have deteriorating rates. Ex: full repairing a 60 durability item will go from 98%, 97%, 96%.. and so on for each point, versus a 98% for each time you click on one-point repair. Personally, I do one-point regardless. I mean, why risk the lower rates? Waste of a good 9 dollars to me. ;_;[/FONT]
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-10-21 23:21
  I personally do pt by pt too cuz if i fail can rebless
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-10-22 00:53

  Quote from Bunny;1161350:

  [FONT="Arial"]
  Apparently the reason for one-point repairs is because full repairs have deteriorating rates. Ex: full repairing a 60 durability item will go from 98%, 97%, 96%.. and so on for each point, versus a 98% for each time you click on one-point repair. Personally, I do one-point regardless. I mean, why risk the lower rates? Waste of a good 9 dollars to me. ;_;[/FONT]

  
  
  No, that's a horrible horrible lie. I don't know who told you that, but that's a horrible lie.
  
  That's cumulative probability. What that means is that's the success rate of succeeding in both repairs.
  
  Example: Joe has 2 points to repair on his sword down at Edern. He sees that the success rate is 98%. He can either repair one point at a time for 98% success rate on each individual point or full repair for a 96.04% success rate for both points at once - the probability during the full repair is still 98% per point. Now, being a superstitious character fed misinformation by stupid guildies, Joe decides to repair one point at a time, blissfully unaware that the success rate for both points at once will STILL be 96.04%.
  
  The reason that people repair one point at a time is because a full repair essentially automates the repair process - meaning that if you lose a blessing due to a failed point, the additional points are calculated at the unblessed success rate. If the difference is something like 98% blessed at Nicca vs 95% unblessed, then you can potentially fail a lot of dura with a perfect repair because of that. Repairing one point at a time allows you to rebless the item before attempting to repair again in the case of a failure.