"Pokemon" event idea

• Scaz wrote on 2013-11-06 05:26
  These are merely my thoughts on everything: these are not the finalized rules yet but these are my ideas for how to go about all of this:
  
  
  Participation
  
  *We will need participants in increments of 8 to allow for an even number of rounds
  *Ideally I would like 128 participants to allow for 16 matches with 4 rounds
  *We will need a ratio of 3 to 1 for Pokemon to trainers. Meaning for every trainer we'll need 3 people to be Pokemon
  *In order to Participate I will need the following information from you all to determine your difficulty of capture if you end up being a Pokemon:
  -If you would prefer to be a Pokemon or Trainer
  -Your transformation mastery rank
  -Smash rank
  -Defense Rank
  -Windmill Rank
  -Counter Rank
  -Stats ( hp, stam, mana, str. etc..)
  
  Dice Battle System
  
  *All participants will be require to carry dice with them
  *Trainers will start with 20? hp
  *For the first poke they encounter the poke will de-trans and roll against the trainer, the pokes hp will be based on its skills, stats, etc
  *Each player will roll a dice at the same time, if the Pokemon's hp hits 0 first, it will be "captured"
  *In the event that the trainers hp hits 0 first, they will need to retreat to the closest town as they "whited out" and "heal"
  *When the dices are rolled the result of the die will be the amount of damage the respective players hp will take. Players will continue to roll until one of them has 0 hp.
  *After the player catches 1 Pokemon they will be allowed to use their Pokemon to capture the next one, the Pokemon they use will have the same hp as when it was initially battled by the trainer.
  *The Pokemon must battle first, if it loses the trainer will then have the last shot at catching it, when both the trainer and any Pokemon he may have hp hits 0, the same "white out" and "heal" effect will occur and they must retreat to town.
  *Once a trainer obtains the 3 Pokemon they wish to use they must make their way to the designated Battle Arena
  
  Battle Tournament:
  
  *Once players arrive at the designated battle arena, they will be given a number by me, remember your number for it will determine your match-ups
  *The tournament will use a simple bracket system where trainers will be matched against one other trainer and the winner moves on
  *The match ups will be completely random and I will use the numbers I gave you for the matchmaking
  * The combat will be either PVP (5%) or in the Arena between the pokes, I may take a poll on this to see which people like better
  *Pokemon within the battle arena will only be allowed basic clothes, no upgrades, reforges or enchants just clean clothing.
  *During your battles you may make 1 substitution, for example if you defeat one of your opponents Pokemon you proceed to switch out the Pokemon that is currently your active. You may only do this ONCE so choose wisely.
  *The Pokemon subbed out cannot be healed and shall only be allowed to naturally heal while it is out of battle, meaning it may use rest
  *The pokes are free to fight freely, because issuing commands would be to slow based on the different speed people type, etc. If the trainer feels they need to issue a command they are allowed to, for example if u see your poke charging someone using counter you can tell them to use windmill.
  *The first trainer to lose all 3 Pokemon within the battle will be the loser and eliminated from the tournament
  
  Prizes/Date/Time
  
  *Prizes are TBD but will be provided to the top 4 trainers in the tournament, obviously 4th place will not get as good a prize as 3rd, 2nd or 1st, with 1st place getting the best prize
  *Date and Time are still to be determined until we get an idea of how many people will be participating, any time conflicts etc
  *If you sign up to participate and cannot make it on the set date/time once it is determined, please find a replacement for yourself and notify either me or Scaz
• Adrianblade wrote on 2013-11-06 07:19
  I would write more but its late so I'll just throw in some quick observations.
  
  Skills are a major problem. Why?
  
  People are either actively training a skill or have it finished. The ones that don't fall into these two categories are few and far. That means you're gonna have a bunch of r1 skilled people (therefore making the # of "pokemon" limited) or people that would have constantly changing ranks (which would mean a constant change in what type of "pokemon" they can be).
  
  Granted this is if we only talk about one skill.
  
  What if someone had r1 smash and r9 windmill? Or r9 smash but r1 windmill? Would you consider them to be the same "pokemon"? Prob not right? So let's get more complicated. What if someone had r1 smash, r1 windmill and r9 defense while another would have r9 smash, r1 windmill, and r1 defense and another skill had r1 smash, r9 windmill and r1 defense. The more skills you add, the more complicated it'll become. Each person would require a diff "pokemon" unless you want to say that its based on their nature and that opens a can of worms you might not want to open.
  
  Now lets be hopeful and somehow you get everyone sorted out...
  
  Ok that's another problem. How many people do you wish to actually involve in such a project? People have their own lives outside of mabi and aren't always available. The more people you add, the more things could go wrong. But if you have too few people the event would be boring and stale.
  
  Now lets pretend we have the pokemon/skills all sorted out and you found a perfect number of people who happen to all be available during this one day or so.
  
  Now we have the problem of actually dealing with all this capturing and fighting.
  
  Capturing...food seems like a nice idea but how will you make it or judge what food would work for a certain "pokemon"? Know what? In fact lets pretend that isnt an issue. You have all the right food types down. Now how would these trainers get this food? Do they have to make it? Buy it? Let's assume that's also solved.
  
  Ok battling then. Back to the skill problem. A person with r1 smash in trans would still be a hell of a sight better than a person with r9 smash in trans. Hell I've just also realized another thing! For every trans you get stats for when you are in trans. How would you balance out someone with a high capture journal with a low one? Wait but then how would you even warrant the capture of a "weak pokemon"? Now you could say you could "train" it but how? And if you were a trainer with a "weak pokemon" that would automatically put you at a disadvantage so how would that be fair?
  
  Let's put it this way. This idea sounds fun and interesting but the very nature of mabi's combat/skill system makes it hard to implement without some real brainstorming. I could go on and on but like I said in the beginning its late and I need sleep.
• Scaz wrote on 2013-11-06 21:06

  Quote from Adrianblade;1166651:

  -lots of words here-

  
  
  Thank you for your reply, but I can't really say this is what I wanted in terms of feedback, I knew from the start there'd be lots of problems and originally it was meant to be just for the guild, but in terms of people that would join, not many, we'd need some volunteers.
  
  I appreciate that you came with the intent to warn me or inform me, but this wasn't what I was looking for. I'm looking for resolutions to certain problems and how it can be done better with what has already been presented. I'm not here to say you're wrong, it is just not the response I was hoping. I am in fact discussing all the issues with the guild leader, Yuuhiatagiri, and we may have a resolution to some of them which I will slowly add to this thread which once again I will want feedback for. I care not if you were tired and would've done more or not, just this response is once again not what I was hoping for. Think of it as me trying to sell something and what can be done to improve it so it sells more, or gets more people wanting it/wanting to do it.
  
  In response to the people with low trans, but high combat since thats what we've discussed most thoroughly, we'd leave capturing to a dice roll, but if they have Rx combat skills they may have this amount of hp even though they have low trans mastery rank, the same can be said for the opposite, where they may have a high trans rank AKA Magic Golem, Demi lich, etc. but low combat, they will have higher hp, but not a substantial advantage. This event WILL require a lot of thinking and input which is why I'm asking for it I want to make this work whether it involves hundreds of people or just 30.
  
  I'm doing this for the guild, and anyone wishing to partake as well, my aim is NOT to include the whole server or a large amount of people. I am more than happy to talk to anyone else that comments here about ideas they have, or whatever else can be done to improved or change for this. Whether you provide input and participate or not is up to you. I'm just looking for feedback on whether idea x will work or will we need idea y to improve it or will it just not work altogether.
• Adrianblade wrote on 2013-11-06 23:59

  Quote from Scaz;1166856:

  Response

  
  
  Feedback
  
  1. information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc., used as a basis for improvement.
  
  Technically your "product" as you call it doesn't even warrant the name. So technically you aren't even at the level of getting "feedback" as of now. So I just wrote what my initial reaction to the whole thing was. And that's because all you have atm, based on that first post, is an idea. And in the words of my business management professor, "An idea is worthless." In order to make it turn from a simple idea you must refine it and really research it. Your initial post gives me the impression of just a smattering of thoughts that you just happened to throw together. Sure you are discussing this with your guild leader but what has come out of it so far? What concrete thoughts and processes have you come up with as of now?
  
  My advice? Go back to that first post and actually make it something that people can grasp and then improve. You said you've discussed the whole trans and skill problem right? Then put it in there. You said you figured out the taming process right? Put it in there. You even said such an event would require a lot of thinking. That's good but all that brain storming and thinking does squat unless its documented. Do you have it documented? Sure you might say but...where is it? It's not on this thread that's for sure. You want feedback? Then give more information than what you currently have because once again, what you have atm isn't enough.
• Calistin wrote on 2013-11-11 14:02
  I found your idea intriguing, difficulty to implement aside I think it might work. My thoughts so far have been thus:
  - Each "pokemon" character needs to submit applicable skill ranks: Smash, Windmill, Counter, Rest, and Transformation Mastery, Transformation List, as well as stats at level one
  - All pokemon should be ranked by the admins and assigned to various locations and trans
  - Equipment used by wild pokemon should basic clothing, no ES, no upgrades, non-tailored. This can be upgraded by the trainer as the pair work together, however in regards to enchanting, this should only occur as a request from the pokemon.
  - Evolution is half the fun of pokemon, so lists of acceptable evolution chains should be formed, example: Snake --> Poison Snake --> Spiked Worm
  - Evolution gets a little tricky, trainers attempting to train pokemon into a form not currently on the pokemon's trans list have it easy. With the pokemon in form the pair simply earn the desired form. People with complete or near complete lists should have a task to perform as a pair; gathering elements from sprites for elemental themed forms, running a dungeon with an egg without letting it break, etc...
  - There should be observers involved for verification of pokemon capture, task completion, and to serve as duel witnesses.
  - As far as imbalanced pokemon battles, this is a risk the trainer takes even in the original game so no worries there.
  - Training the pokemon is as simple as the trainer helping the pokemon rank up the applicable skills. Understandably AP availablity will be an issue, but if this event is done over a prolonged time it would be less of an issue. It is unlikely, but if someone is willing to de-rank skills to make this more interesting, some sort of token training should be done.
  - I know that the whole purpose of the original game is to catch them all, but in the interest of simplicity a ratio of one pokemon per trainer would be easier to manage.
  - Tournaments should be set up and done at intervals, perhaps weekly or monthly.
  - The administrators should catalog duels and score them by rank, some prize should be offered to the winners of the tournament. Ideally, even the unofficial pokemon battles would be cataloged and graded. However, it might be better to include only duels witnessed by official observers in the catalog.
• Scaz wrote on 2013-11-17 20:06
  Initial post updated.