What if fine/cred reforges costed 10/30 adventurer seals?

• BecomeMeguca wrote on 2013-11-07 01:17
  What would happen? Would mabi become a lot more crowded?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-11-07 01:19

  Quote from BecomeMeguca;1166963:

  What would happen? Would mabi become a lot more crowded?

  
  
  To quote a few posts in the new skills thread:
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1165944:

  Finest Reforging Tool (or whatever name): A reforge that acts as a fine reforging tool, but ranks up 5 times as much.
  
  I suggest putting it in the cash shop for about the same price as Credne's, as well as adding it to Lord Missions rewards list, Forest Purification, and the seal shop for 50~100 seals.

  
  
  

  Quote from Kapra;1165948:

  Personally, I'm against putting them in non-nx/event sources. Reforge kits being NX only is what funds other features to be free and in the seal shop and other sources.

  
  
  Pretty much it.
• cheese758 wrote on 2013-11-07 01:40
  I wouldn't have to photoshop my ign into pics of other players doing 50k dmg to impress people.
• Syr wrote on 2013-11-07 01:49
  Your numbers do not impress me, show me your step 6 weapons.
• Clarey wrote on 2013-11-07 01:54
  Would be great but would make nexon lose money which would mean shutting down the game so no thank you...
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-11-07 06:00
  It's a missed business opportunity. Reforges as they are more often scare people off, and even drive people to quit because they feel cheated by pay2win. There's no reason why every cash shop item can't be acquired through game. Really it provides reason to play the game, start to use the item, and increase the probability of them actually paying for the item later on since it would be more convenient.
  
  Of course if they're 10 and 30 adventure seals, pretty much no one will buy reforges through the cash shop anymore. The price needs to be balanced so that people will buy them, but it needs to be expensive enough so that buying through the cash shop is noticeably easier. Of course there's also the fact that players are willing to sell reforges for gold, which provides Nexon with money, players with NX the ability to acquire gold by paying, and other players the ability to buy reforges through normal game methods. Despite this, I think Nexon and the players would still benefit from putting cash shop items in the seal shop, but maybe not reforges.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-11-07 06:04
  100-200 for a fine reforge 1 per week each char
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-11-07 09:58
  Make reforges craftable.
  
  
  There you go.
  It certainly seems like they will take it to this direction sooner or later.
  
  Make it materials come from falias. Make the reforges better than the CS ones. Make the success rate low enough.
  
  Make it so that anytime one is made, a server wide message is shown.
  This would solve a lot of gripes.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-11-07 10:44
  Personally pricing it at 10-30 adventurer seals would be folly. Give me one week on my alts and I'll raise you 300 adventure seals + some extra. At the price of 10 that's 30 fine reforges for me in a week and I didn't have to spend all that rl money I would have spent. 30 adventure seals, and you're looking at 10 a week which in 10 weeks will have saved me $100 worth of reforges.
  
  100 adventure seals would slow me down to 3 a week and 300 adventure seals would slow me down to 1 week. This is, if I decide I don't want to save up for skill training seals to bypass some of the more annoying skills.
• Syliara wrote on 2013-11-07 11:03
  I dont care anymore wat happens, this game is becoming easier and easier anyways x.x
• Romanji wrote on 2013-11-07 18:12

  Quote from Pureblooded;1167075:

  I dont care anymore wat happens, this game is becoming easier and easier anyways x.x

  
  
  >Buys reforges and grinds for highest max dmg and DPS possible
  >Complains game is too easy
  >ISHYDDT
  :llama_fail:
  
  Just make new types of reforge kits.
  
  >Crude reforge kit ; Changes 1 line and cannot add lines or reforge rank
  
  >Average reforge kit ; Changes level of 1 line based on rank of reforge
  
  >Goibne reforge kit ; Maxes out lines only when you lack lines but does not increase rank and doesn't change lines you already have
  
  >Incomplete Fine reforge kits; basically the incomplete commerce reforge kits but you get 1 part a day from the adventurer seal shop for 12 seals or 1 part per VIP daily (instead of AP like the normal dailies)
  
  >Fomor Reforge kit ; Changes parameters of weapon, Dura, Max dmg, Min Damage, balance, attack speed, nothing else
  
  >Sinead's Royal Reforge kit; Only gives alchemic reforges
  
  >Duncan's Starter Reforge kits; attained by newbie quests and adds stats only
  
  >Aodhan's Knight Reforge kits; costs NX, gives warrior/lancer/tank/etc reforges
  
  >Shamala's Feral Reforge kits; Costs NX but can also be attained after every 100 monster and 50 NPC forms attained. Gives effects related to transformation and Dark knight/ Paladin/ Beast of Physis/ Beast of Connous
  
  >Berchant's Mystical Reforge kits; Reforges only pertaining to magic, costs NX
  
  yeah I lost my train of thought half way through this, making lunch and filming a letsplay, either way I think elemental reforges should ONLY AFFECT elemental mobs and should take way more damage from those elements. Also there should be way different types of reforge kits and ways to get them.
• Paradise wrote on 2013-11-07 18:50
  Reforge kits should be sealed, needing 30 seals or more to unseal them
  just an idea, including fine/credne reforge kits ingame wont make Nexon's pocket happy, and they need to feed their families
  
  

  Quote from Romanji;1167128:

  
  Also there should be way different types of reforge kits and ways to get them.

  
  
  agree, also different lines, for normal reforges (normal-fine-credne, the usual) and lines for ingame-reward reforges with unique effects, BUT we need to get game content where to give it a good use first.
  
  We can deal too much damage, and the monsters are not really skilled
  
  Fights like uroboros are good, but sadly even back then, it was easy for many ppl to kill the heads in no time thanks to too much damage available, it used to require a good timing and some strategy for those who had to hit them several times to beat them.AND THEN THEY COME AND NERF IT!.
• rangero wrote on 2013-11-07 19:06

  Quote from Zekkii;1167020:

  It's a missed business opportunity. Reforges as they are more often scare people off, and even drive people to quit because they feel cheated by pay2win. There's no reason why every cash shop item can't be acquired through game. Really it provides reason to play the game, start to use the item, and increase the probability of them actually paying for the item later on since it would be more convenient.
  
  Of course if they're 10 and 30 adventure seals, pretty much no one will buy reforges through the cash shop anymore. The price needs to be balanced so that people will buy them, but it needs to be expensive enough so that buying through the cash shop is noticeably easier. Of course there's also the fact that players are willing to sell reforges for gold, which provides Nexon with money, players with NX the ability to acquire gold by paying, and other players the ability to buy reforges through normal game methods. Despite this, I think Nexon and the players would still benefit from putting cash shop items in the seal shop, but maybe not reforges.

  
  
  
  Seems 100% legit, hopefully nexon will put some nicer items like reforges in the seal shop!
• Syliara wrote on 2013-11-07 22:14

  Quote from Romanji;1167128:

  >Buys reforges and grinds for highest max dmg and DPS possible
  >Complains game is too easy
  >ISHYDDT

  
  
  I shouldnt have to nerf myself to make a game difficult, the game should be challenging whether or not I have the best gear and capped stats. I'm not going to nerf myself just to make the game challenging, that is literally counterproductive.
• Cyrene wrote on 2013-11-07 23:50
  After 5 years of playing and leveling up and training your character to the best of your ability, you would expect some content at the end that would hold you till updates. Though instead there is nothing that even justifies all the buffs we have been getting. Weapon masteries, sweet. Destinys, Great. Talents, cool takes out a lot of required grind to hit effecient damage. Though now it puts us at the end faster. You can spam elite missions because not everyone does gacha, We got a def buff but the monsters barely changed. They aren't stronger at all or weaker in shadow missions. Though in the over world monsters are even weaker.
  Everything hits like ones even in adv dungeons and I'm wearing clothing all the time. Why do we even need reforges at this point when you can solo a hardmode in good time with some base handle bars and be naked.
  
  Maybe I sound like I'm complaining and I think I am.. Not sure and I think I'm off topic.. Well..
  
  Cheers!