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nandattebayo wrote on 2013-11-22 03:42

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Cucurbita wrote on 2013-11-22 04:21

i dun getit
Elleanior wrote on 2013-11-22 14:36

Quote from nandattebayo;1172125:
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That's a lot of window shoppers.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-11-22 16:20

Ya doesn't look like it's any one thing in particular. Lots of people browsing a lot of different things.
Kendoza wrote on 2013-11-22 17:28

I usually always have mabination running in the background. >>
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-11-22 17:41

Quote from Kendoza;1172253:
I usually always have mabination running in the background. >>

I don't think it works that way. I think what it considers active is having viewed a page on mabination within a certain time frame.
Krystalys wrote on 2013-11-22 20:01

Quote from Kingofrunes;1172256:
I don't think it works that way. I think what it considers active is having viewed a page on mabination within a certain time frame.

Generally 600-900 seconds, although naughty admins can boost the vBulletin Session Timeout value to inflate their numbers. Setting it 3600 would keep everyone "active" for at least an hour.
Aubog007 wrote on 2013-11-22 20:56

Quote from Krystalys;1172305:
Generally 600-900 seconds, although naughty admins can boost the vBulletin Session Timeout value to inflate their numbers. Setting it 3600 would keep everyone "active" for at least an hour.

I believe ours was set to 1800.
Krystalys wrote on 2013-11-22 21:07

Quote from Aubog007;1172328:
I believe ours was set to 1800.

Base on the current highest idle of 28 minutes, I'd say that's right.
I'd consider that cheating, really. Even 900 stretches the credulity of calling someone "active", anything over that is outright number fudging.
Osayidan wrote on 2013-11-22 22:52

Quote from Krystalys;1172336:
Base on the current highest idle of 28 minutes, I'd say that's right.
I'd consider that cheating, really. Even 900 stretches the credulity of calling someone "active", anything over that is outright number fudging.

Maybe if people are measuring e-peenises based on those numbers. Having it at a half hour stops a fair bit of bitching from people who keep getting logged out . The numbers are also relative anyways, if it's a slow day the numbers are low and if it's active they're high.
Chockeh wrote on 2013-11-22 22:58

Window shoppers means no 'No Ads' upgrade.
Krystalys wrote on 2013-11-22 23:06

Quote from Osayidan;1172356:
Having it at a half hour stops a fair bit of bitching from people who keep getting logged out.

If they don't want to be logged out that's what the magical "stay logged in"/"remember me" checkbox is for.
Krystalys wrote on 2013-11-22 23:56

Quote from Osayidan;1172356:
Having it at a half hour stops a fair bit of bitching from people who keep getting logged out.

If they don't want to be logged out that's what the magical "stay logged in"/"remember me" checkbox is for.

Quote from Osayidan;1172356:
The numbers are also relative anyways, if it's a slow day the numbers are low and if it's active they're high.

My whole life is measuring things, so I disagree with this, and here's a pictoral example of a random thread's single day hits to explain why;

[Image: http://southperry.net/images/personal/activity thresholds.png]

Same thread, with 'activity' measured in 10 minute, 15 minute and 30 minute increments.
the 30 minute version looks much more active, with peaks of 180 users vs peaks of ~70.
It's measuring the same thing, with the same inputs, but since it's lumping them together in a broader spectrum it's a more misleading representation of how 'active' things are.

vBulletin doesn't show a peak per day or give any indication of overall numbers, so by setting a high session time out it let's an admin make their site appear more active than it truly is, by giving the false impression that all those people are there to interact with. Not saying that's why you did it, just pointing out the correlation and why I called it "cheating".
Azareel wrote on 2013-11-24 16:23

Quote from Krystalys;1172377:
[SPOILER="Shrinky-dink"]If they don't want to be logged out that's what the magical "stay logged in"/"remember me" checkbox is for.

My whole life is measuring things, so I disagree with this, and here's a pictoral example of a random thread's single day hits to explain why;

[Image: http://southperry.net/images/personal/activity thresholds.png]

Same thread, with 'activity' measured in 10 minute, 15 minute and 30 minute increments.
the 30 minute version looks much more active, with peaks of 180 users vs peaks of ~70.
It's measuring the same thing, with the same inputs, but since it's lumping them together in a broader spectrum it's a more misleading representation of how 'active' things are.

vBulletin doesn't show a peak per day or give any indication of overall numbers, so by setting a high session time out it let's an admin make their site appear more active than it truly is, by giving the false impression that all those people are there to interact with. Not saying that's why you did it, just pointing out the correlation and why I called it "cheating".[/SPOILER]

You do realize that your graphs confirmed what Osay said, right? The graphs show the same relative behavior in activity. The only difference is the smoothness of the graph.

Just thought I'd point that out.
Krystalys wrote on 2013-11-24 20:54

Quote from Azareel;1172771:
You do realize that your graphs confirmed what Osay said, right? The graphs show the same relative behavior in activity. The only difference is the smoothness of the graph.

I don't think you're realizing the graphs aren't on a common scale, look closer at the vertical axis' labels. The peaks of each threshold are vastly different.
Appearing to have a minimum of 30 active people at any given point in a day and appearing to have a minimum of 100 active people at any given point is not "relative", it's a very direct lesson in perspective. The maximum active of a 10 minute threshold never even reaches the minimum active of a 30 minute threshold.

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