How does one define End Game?

• kaozking wrote on 2013-12-17 22:54

  Quote from Romanji;1179291:

  
  If you are still grinding for that +2 strength or are still hunting that master lich's tranformation or still spamming those white dragons for materials for some gear then you are not "pro" you are not "endgame" you're working towards reaching your perfection still and not attaining your desires would result in displeasure and discomfort.

  
  If they are working towards that extra stat to cap or better gear then that would be considered them attaining their desires. If they didn't desire it, then they wouldn't going after it
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-12-17 23:34

  Quote from EndlessDreams;1179306:

  There is an alternative to getting NPC transformation though. It is through spamming Saga and getting Transformation coins, and combine them for random ones. While it is a very slow way, but you are still getting some coins.

  
  
  I thought those only gave Saga coins. Are you telling me those things can still give things like Nuadha trans?
• Syliara wrote on 2013-12-17 23:37

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1179366:

  I thought those only gave Saga coins. Are you telling me those things can still give things like Nuadha trans?

  
  
  I can confirm that combining 3 saga coins can give u a random npc trans... However, its still unconfirmed whether the limited time ones are still "limited" or if they can be gotten by combining multiples like with saga.
• Johny wrote on 2013-12-18 01:28

  Quote from frozenwilderness;1179347:

  then there's really no point to playing anymore, is there
  
  that's a pretty literal End Game
  
  same can be said for Johny's definition.. what's the point of even playing if you've got nothing left to do eh

  
  
  Most of us have varying definitions of end-game and I understand that. The reason why I said most of you guys sell yourself short when saying that end-game= maxed out stats/skills is because getting to that stage is relatively easy now. Granted it still takes a lot of effort and time. However acquiring APs to train skills, doing dungeon for enchants, and buying yourselves reforges couldn't get any easier nowadays (unless Nexon decides to implement a feature that spoon-feeds people this stuff, at which point...).
  
  Anyways, back when I first started playing mabinogi, I made the decision to create the best mage character I could make (Rank 1 all magic skills and int as high as i could get it). Having accomplished that I am satisfied, and have been for the last 3 years. The main reason I continue playing nowadays is because I still have contacts in mabinogi. I still enjoy dungeon/ mission raids with my guildies and friends. That to me is more enough reason why to continue logging in. That aside however, I could say I can retire happily from mabinogi right now this instant without a shadow of a doubt.
  
  So again, everyone's definition for end-game varies greatly. Some will be content with the most basic of achievements; others don't stop until they have the absolute best of everything this game has to offer. I am one of those that accept basic achievements. I have achieved my personal goals, and now only looking for the next fun event with my guild and friends.
  
  ...Although I will say this, If this was a console game with a completion gauge, I'd probably try my best for 100% completion rate.
• Azareel wrote on 2013-12-19 03:02
  The biggest discrepancy I see right now are the group of people who insist that endgame is (approximately) a single point in progression (the finish line), and the people who perceive it to be a "segment" of progression (the home stretch).
  
  I personally subscribe to the latter view, as otherwise the term has little use in standard speech.
  
  
  As to whether or not it has anything to do with the player's personal goals or not seems to also be up in the air.