Squishy elf survivability

• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-14 19:56

  Quote from Yuuki Asuna;1178264:

  AOE pets are incredibly hard to time with Canadian internet.
  
  Also Slurp, you should rank potion lore after you cap mana shield for sure.

  
  
  Forgot about potion lore, definitely gonna rank it! And yeah tell me about it, Canada needs better ISPs. ;(
  
  

  Quote from Blassreiter;1178278:

  If you really think that you will get hit a lot and you need to survive hits, I recommend having a shield handy. Despite the "high damage only, shields are for noobs" people shields are the main source of tanking. Of course true to the damage addicts, using a shield forces you to use one handed weapons and usually one handers are weaker in comparison. Although you're using archery as main you can always have your second slot with a one hander+shield. That alone essentially makes you like a shieldless heavy armor user without the dex penalties.

  
  
  Well the problem isn't really getting hit a lot, it's more about getting hit once means game over. I basically have 0 room for messing up as it stands right now due to how squishy my elf is. Also using a shield in my other tab just doesn't seem worth it to me considering I'm losing the ability to use puppets (all my AoE capabilities apart from crash shot) and it would be way too difficult with my connection to be switching weapons mid combat.
  
  

  Quote from Chaos';1178518:

  you can also rank up combat mastery after mana shield and magic mastery. Give u a nice chunk of hp and a itty bitty amount of dex too 8D

  
  
  Anything with dex is high up on the priority list. I love it <3.
• ironwoman wrote on 2013-12-14 20:24

  Quote from Blassreiter;1178278:

  If you really think that you will get hit a lot and you need to survive hits, I recommend having a shield handy. Despite the "high damage only, shields are for noobs" people shields are the main source of tanking. Of course true to the damage addicts, using a shield forces you to use one handed weapons and usually one handers are weaker in comparison. Although you're using archery as main you can always have your second slot with a one hander+shield. That alone essentially makes you like a shieldless heavy armor user without the dex penalties.

  
  
  While I agree with the shield idea, I wouldn't recommend one hander. One hander is already useless as it is on humans, don't expect it to be any more useful on elves, even with elemental reforges. What I would do instead is carry around a cylinder (volcano or hellfire would be the best). You can use flame burst for more cc and be more useful in missions like Sulfur spider, use shock, or life drain (which also gives HP). Additionally, alch does add just a little bit of dex, something you could look into. I'd recommend the Holy Eagle Mask, Dragon/Valkyrie shield, or guard cylinder when vate comes out.
  
  Like Chaos said, combat mastery is also a must. If you're gonna use puppetry, might as well get that damage bonus from combat mastery.
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2013-12-14 21:23
  With the advent of Diva skills, you could also consider ranking singing and lullaby though I'm not sure if the execution time is facile for the narrow window of agro to getting hit. It's something you'll have to test and see if it works for your play-style!
• frozenwilderness wrote on 2013-12-14 21:33
  i have a better idea
  
  come back to ruairi and play alf, you're not that far with your alexina alf anyway ^_^
  
  but yeah, mainly just rank ms, hoard some int and mana (composing/mk/potmake/bolts for int and magic mastery/medi/bolt mastery for mana) and go for ms reforge on gloves... I find that lvl 10 ms reforge for me generally works just fine
  
  upping defense via strength is a much longer route, and since you'll want to be using bohemian set, you're not gonna get much def/prot from clothing
• Syliara wrote on 2013-12-15 02:28

  Quote from frozenwilderness;1178581:

  i have a better idea
  
  come back to ruairi and play alf, you're not that far with your alexina alf anyway ^_^
  
  but yeah, mainly just rank ms, hoard some int and mana (composing/mk/potmake/bolts for int and magic mastery/medi/bolt mastery for mana) and go for ms reforge on gloves... I find that lvl 10 ms reforge for me generally works just fine
  
  upping defense via strength is a much longer route, and since you'll want to be using bohemian set, you're not gonna get much def/prot from clothing

  
  
  He's ours now <3
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-15 02:41

  Quote from ironwoman;1178569:

  While I agree with the shield idea, I wouldn't recommend one hander. One hander is already useless as it is on humans, don't expect it to be any more useful on elves, even with elemental reforges. What I would do instead is carry around a cylinder (volcano or hellfire would be the best). You can use flame burst for more cc and be more useful in missions like Sulfur spider, use shock, or life drain (which also gives HP). Additionally, alch does add just a little bit of dex, something you could look into. I'd recommend the Holy Eagle Mask, Dragon/Valkyrie shield, or guard cylinder when vate comes out.
  
  Like Chaos said, combat mastery is also a must. If you're gonna use puppetry, might as well get that damage bonus from combat mastery.

  
  
  Ahhh alch is so far down the road I'm not sure if it's something I can really consider right now. Although with vate coming up in the next month or two I may bump it up on the priority list, I'll just have to see I guess. I've seen shock in action and honestly if it had just a bit more range it would be perfect for my purposes. Also yeah about combat mastery right now on the list is:
  
  1. Cap Mana shield and MP/int up
  2. Finish puppets (only need about 300 AP more for this)
  3. Cap Bard talent
  4. Get easy combat skills done (for extra strength for puppets)
  5. Cap dex
  
  

  Quote from Yuuki Asuna;1178578:

  With the advent of Diva skills, you could also consider ranking singing and lullaby though I'm not sure if the execution time is facile for the narrow window of agro to getting hit. It's something you'll have to test and see if it works for your play-style!

  
  
  Yeah, I'm gonna be ranking bard skills really really soon. Singing+lullaby will probably make it so I can kill everything before they even aggro me so mana shield should tide me over until I'm at that point.
  
  

  Quote from frozenwilderness;1178581:

  i have a better idea
  
  come back to ruairi and play alf, you're not that far with your alexina alf anyway ^_^
  
  but yeah, mainly just rank ms, hoard some int and mana (composing/mk/potmake/bolts for int and magic mastery/medi/bolt mastery for mana) and go for ms reforge on gloves... I find that lvl 10 ms reforge for me generally works just fine
  
  upping defense via strength is a much longer route, and since you'll want to be using bohemian set, you're not gonna get much def/prot from clothing

  
  
  Pls snow, you saw what pure said. ;( I'm sorry to break your heart but I'm no longer a Ruairi lover </3.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-12-15 02:51

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1178661:

  Ahhh alch is so far down the road I'm not sure if it's something I can really consider right now. Although with vate coming up in the next month or two I may bump it up on the priority list, I'll just have to see I guess. I've seen shock in action and honestly if it had just a bit more range it would be perfect for my purposes. Also yeah about combat mastery right now on the list is:
  
  1. Cap Mana shield and MP/int up
  2. Finish puppets (only need about 300 AP more for this)
  3. Cap Bard talent
  4. Get easy combat skills done (for extra strength for puppets)
  5. Cap dex
  
  
  
  Yeah, I'm gonna be ranking bard skills really really soon. Singing+lullaby will probably make it so I can kill everything before they even aggro me so mana shield should tide me over until I'm at that point.
  
  
  
  Pls snow, you saw what pure said. ;( I'm sorry to break your heart but I'm no longer a Ruairi lover </3.

  Heads up Lullaby Is OP in Wiz Solos
• frozenwilderness wrote on 2013-12-15 03:37

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1178661:

  Pls snow, you saw what pure said. ;( I'm sorry to break your heart but I'm no longer a Ruairi lover </3.

  
  
  wow mike u suk </3
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-15 04:57

  Quote from frozenwilderness;1178674:

  wow mike u suk </3

  
  
  I love you too Snow <3
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-12-15 05:09
  Lullaby < Crash < Aoe Pet < Crash If mobs Arent dead Otherwise Lullaby Again and Repeat
• nandattebayo wrote on 2013-12-15 19:50

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1178688:

  Lullaby < Crash < Aoe Pet < Crash If mobs Arent dead Otherwise Lullaby Again and Repeat

  
  
  Lullaby only works once per mob.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-12-16 00:35

  Quote from nandattebayo;1178750:

  Lullaby only works once per mob.

  IK I said Crash Again if Mobs aint dead then if they're dead use a Lullaby for next Mob ?
• ironwoman wrote on 2013-12-16 01:56

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1178688:

  Lullaby < Crash < Aoe Pet < Crash If mobs Arent dead Otherwise Lullaby Again and Repeat

  
  
  Confusing grammar. I looked at it the same way Kurodo did. This goes for people in general, but please do try to use correct grammar, spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. A sentence like this can really confuse people.
  
  Anyways, after AoE pet, I'd just use crash shot instead, too much cooldown on crash. Then yeah, just repeat lullaby. You'd have to switch from instrument to bars every time though, until Diva at least.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2013-12-16 02:40

  Quote from ironwoman;1178790:

  Confusing grammar. I looked at it the same way Kurodo did. This goes for people in general, but please do try to use correct grammar, spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. A sentence like this can really confuse people.
  
  Anyways, after AoE pet, I'd just use crash shot instead, too much cooldown on crash. Then yeah, just repeat lullaby. You'd have to switch from instrument to bars every time though, until Diva at least.

  
  Sorry but yus you got the gist of it xD
• frozenwilderness wrote on 2013-12-16 03:33

  Quote from ironwoman;1178790:

  Confusing grammar. I looked at it the same way Kurodo did. This goes for people in general, but please do try to use correct grammar, spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. A sentence like this can really confuse people.
  
  Anyways, after AoE pet, I'd just use crash shot instead, too much cooldown on crash. Then yeah, just repeat lullaby. You'd have to switch from instrument to bars every time though, until Diva at least.

  
  
  since this thread is made by someone who mains archery, I would assume he meant to crash shot twice, and not climactic