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iittala wrote on 2013-12-17 06:23
So.. I`ve been playing mabi I think about 6 months now and I still dont really get it. I apologize now for the long message.
I`ll start off with what I get.. I get AP and skills and how to rank and train those.. It took some time but I figured it out. There are 5 basic stats in mabi Strength- like close combat with a sword fighting, Int is magical things like magic, Dex is Ranged attacks and the all Amazing life skills, Will has something to do with fighter and Balance, Luck is money and crit and lucky stuff.
Then there are stats some build on these stats, others dont, like Bard and alchemy oh and paladain kinda are seperate stats, kinda like hilween engineering. Stats the build would be like puppetry from STR and DEX, and dual gun from STR and INT.
Now I`ll say what I`ve done so far.. I`ve done G1 and G2 and have started G3 but am doing Saga right now instead. I want a pink pegs. my stats are total level 610 and expl 180. My base stats are (the one here) str-153, int-277, dex-127, will-150 luck-28.
Major skills I`ve ranked r1 CM, r2 WM, r3 firebolt, r9 mana shield, most basic combat magic is r9 or higher. now life skills my favorite r1 refining, r1 PM, r1 harvesting, r4 metallugry,r8 herb, rA potion making and r9 egg gathering.
Things I`ve done that are somewhat measurable. PTJs, 140 grocery store, 342 church, 60 healers, 34 general store. My main weapons are a glory sword with +28 str and +5 max hp oh and I have a chain cast fire fairy wand, Dungeons, Alby is really easy to clear. Ciar.. I`m scared of the golem, Rabbie is easy, Math is pretty easy too, Barri YEA ores!! run all the way back before boss room, Peaca has awesome herb spawns but its super scary. Thats it for dungeons I`ve done. Oh and I have 6.5 mill in the bank.
So here kinda comes the questions.. I`m not really a fan of combat is there a way to be a good fighter from life skills or can you just give people things?
What do you do with gold?.. Like really I get you can use it to buy things.. But I don`t get what. I see on the commerce channel those party things with people B> and S> things.. none of those catch my interest and I`m not sure how to put up my own B> thing party for things I want. Any explanations about that?
Is there a fusion skill for like INT and DEX? because I feel like my DEX is going to get high from liking life skills so much.
My active talent is potion making so I`m ranking that now and I dont get how to find a piece of an ancient spirit fossil.. You know to train with white herbs, A nice explanation? I checked the potion making guide but there was no explanation on how to get these dang pieces.
Oh is there a condensed summary to Mabi kinda like with what I was talking about with skill and stuff? and kinda like applying them too like. get this and this stat high if you want to do this. If your doing things you can do this to get that.
Sorry about the long message and plethora of questions but I wanted to have everything covered and make sure people knew where I was coming from...
TL:DR- Mabi life skiller issues
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Syliara wrote on 2013-12-17 06:42
Quote from iittala;1179076:
So.. I`ve been playing mabi I think about 6 months now and I still dont really get it. I apologize now for the long message.
I`ll start off with what I get.. I get AP and skills and how to rank and train those.. It took some time but I figured it out. There are 5 basic stats in mabi Strength- like close combat with a sword fighting, Int is magical things like magic, Dex is Ranged attacks and the all Amazing life skills, Will has something to do with fighter and Balance, Luck is money and crit and lucky stuff.
Then there are stats some build on these stats, others dont, like Bard and alchemy oh and paladain kinda are seperate stats, kinda like hilween engineering. Stats the build would be like puppetry from STR and DEX, and dual gun from STR and INT.
Now I`ll say what I`ve done so far.. I`ve done G1 and G2 and have started G3 but am doing Saga right now instead. I want a pink pegs. my stats are total level 610 and expl 180. My base stats are (the one here) str-153, int-277, dex-127, will-150 luck-28.
Major skills I`ve ranked r1 CM, r2 WM, r3 firebolt, r9 mana shield, most basic combat magic is r9 or higher. now life skills my favorite r1 refining, r1 PM, r1 harvesting, r4 metallugry,r8 herb, rA potion making and r9 egg gathering.
Things I`ve done that are somewhat measurable. PTJs, 140 grocery store, 342 church, 60 healers, 34 general store. My main weapons are a glory sword with +28 str and +5 max hp oh and I have a chain cast fire fairy wand, Dungeons, Alby is really easy to clear. Ciar.. I`m scared of the golem, Rabbie is easy, Math is pretty easy too, Barri YEA ores!! run all the way back before boss room, Peaca has awesome herb spawns but its super scary. Thats it for dungeons I`ve done. Oh and I have 6.5 mill in the bank.
So here kinda comes the questions.. I`m not really a fan of combat is there a way to be a good fighter from life skills or can you just give people things?
What do you do with gold?.. Like really I get you can use it to buy things.. But I don`t get what. I see on the commerce channel those party things with people B> and S> things.. none of those catch my interest and I`m not sure how to put up my own B> thing party for things I want. Any explanations about that?
Is there a fusion skill for like INT and DEX? because I feel like my DEX is going to get high from liking life skills so much.
My active talent is potion making so I`m ranking that now and I dont get how to find a piece of an ancient spirit fossil.. You know to train with white herbs, A nice explanation? I checked the potion making guide but there was no explanation on how to get these dang pieces.
Oh is there a condensed summary to Mabi kinda like with what I was talking about with skill and stuff? and kinda like applying them too like. get this and this stat high if you want to do this. If your doing things you can do this to get that.
Sorry about the long message and plethora of questions but I wanted to have everything covered and make sure people knew where I was coming from...
TL:DR- Mabi life skiller issues
First off, will doesnt affect balance dex does. Will affects critical rate (half the rate as luck does).
Dexterity only affects puppets and range. Both are extremely powerful skillsets when u put the time, energy, and (for the latter one) money into them. With gold you can do basically anything in mabi, there are a couple things u might have to do urself, but gold will allow u to do most of the things u want to accomplish in mabi.
To put up a party ad, you press "p" and go to the dungeon tab. Then u fill in the top 2 spaces (required) and the bottom one if u need more space (not required). You can put a password on it so that people dont randomly join ur party, and you can put it up on the party board if u want a slight edge for people to see wat ur selling/buying (theres a box to tic for that that opens up another section that u can just press ok with).
Int and dex do not have a fusion atm, idk if they ever will.
Ancient spirit fossil pieces come from bari spirit dungeon after u refine them and get the excess back (the excess being the pieces, or at least thats how I remember it could be wrong on it). However u dont need to do that to rank potion making. The guide should have wat u need to rank all the way to rank 1.
Alot of answers u might have can be answered on this website:
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Wiki_Home
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kaozking wrote on 2013-12-17 06:53
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So here kinda comes the questions.. I`m not really a fan of combat is there a way to be a good fighter from life skills or can you just give people things?
Life skills are meant to mainly further your stats, but things like Magic craft, Engineering, Weaving, Blacksmith, and Refining can be used to like make certain things and sell/give them to other players.
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What do you do with gold?.. Like really I get you can use it to buy things.. But I don`t get what. I see on the commerce channel those party things with people B> and S> things.. none of those catch my interest and I`m not sure how to put up my own B> thing party for things I want. Any explanations about that?
Sounds like you just want to advertise. Simply Press "P and fill out the info with what you want Sell/Buy and it will advertise over the party channel.
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Is there a fusion skill for like INT and DEX? because I feel like my DEX is going to get high from liking life skills so much.
Currently, no and I don't think there is going to be one at all. If you want to focus on one thing I would recommend you try either archery if you feel that you will be superior in the dex region and if you like the comabt style. If not you still have a little time to determine what you enjoy to do combat wise and master it.
Quote from iittala;1179076:
My active talent is potion making so I`m ranking that now and I dont get how to find a piece of an ancient spirit fossil.. You know to train with white herbs, A nice explanation? I checked the potion making guide but there was no explanation on how to get these dang pieces.
Potion making shouldn't need that fossil :C. Just stick to the guide.
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Oh is there a condensed summary to Mabi kinda like with what I was talking about with skill and stuff? and kinda like applying them too like. get this and this stat high if you want to do this. If your doing things you can do this to get that.
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/
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iittala wrote on 2013-12-17 07:04
Oh... the mabi wiki I use that a lot.. I like it for paths and really detailed.. But I`m looking for like a big picture kinda web thing.
Really parties are that simple... (there needs to be a community tutorial almost)
The guide says.. you can use mana white and base herbs to make something to just rank it or you can go the extra something with the fossil frags to get something to sell.
So I have to decided between INT and DEX, And I was right about STR being needed for both dual gun and puppetry?
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-17 07:10
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Oh... the mabi wiki I use that a lot.. I like it for paths and really detailed.. But I`m looking for like a big picture kinda web thing.
Really parties are that simple... (there needs to be a community tutorial almost)
The guide says.. you can use mana white and base herbs to make something to just rank it or you can go the extra something with the fossil frags to get something to sell.
So I have to decided between INT and DEX, And I was right about STR being needed for both dual gun and puppetry?
This thread might help with general knowledge:
http://mabination.com/threads/76835-Mabinogi-tips-and-tricks-2014
Also, I'm not sure about the other stuff you're asking about but yes STR is needed for both dual gun and puppetry. Every 3.5 str adds 1 max to your puppets damage while every 4 str adds 1 max to your gun damage.
Also if you enjoy doing life skills consider doing range, as most life skills give dex and every 2.5 dex adds 1 max damage to your bow damage.
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Chaos' wrote on 2013-12-17 17:33
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The guide says.. you can use mana white and base herbs to make something to just rank it or you can go the extra something with the fossil frags to get something to sell.
You can make either spirit hearing water, or spirit liqueur for those rank. It really depends on how much time your willing to waste into gathering ancient spirit fossil pieces. Would you rather make a useless quest item for quick points, or attempt to run barri multiple time for these spirit pieces.
To get ancient spirit fossil pieces, you have to complete the ancient spirit magic quest [Get a egoable weapon to 100% prof]. Then Talk to Gilmore in bangor with your new keyword to get the barri pass. Enter barri with the pass and mine for ancient spirit fossils. Talk to edern to turn them in for 1~5 ancient spirit fossil pieces and a random spirit stone.
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ironwoman wrote on 2013-12-17 18:42
Let's see. What race are you? Because this really matters in the character progression.
Normally, in the beginning stages, the first two skill set you wanna touch are close combat and range.
These mix well together, and just set you up for puppetry. Now if you're a giant, you have no such thing as a range, and elf melee, is at best, mediocre.
For your weapon choices… ditch that glory sword, please do. It is the most useless 2h out there besides the two handed sword and executioner's sword. For your level, dual wielding is a much more logical choice. At later stages though, you wanna be getting a knight lance or a bone breaker. At this stage of the game, seems like you have your fireboat ranked up. It's not a bad choice really, as it gains damage really quickly if you rank magic, fire, bolt, and magic weapon mastery, but it'll plateau out. You could use that firebolt to clear your contents out, as you would be pulling off quick 2k damage. Also, ditch the fairy fire wand, that thing has no use. If you're gonna use magic seriously, might as well get a real wand, like chaincasted savage fire wand or something. Also, special upgrade them, you seem like you have the money to do so.
As for dex, just rank range. It's a nice skill set to have in general, and will help with other classes (balance, damage).
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iittala wrote on 2013-12-18 01:01
wow you guys are super friendly and nice and helpful. Keep giving more questions on to of questions though but oh well.
Chaos now I need to get to work in barri dungeon mining.. loads of fun.
IronWoman. Alright I`m a human. Can i keep the glory sword for fashion? oh oh.. using firebolt to clear all that content stuff sounds great.
And now You`ve got my wondering on how the differnt styles of bows work. Not having much luck finding a summary and testing them out.. they all seem fairly the same.
You are right money isnt much of an issue for me in-game I`ve gotten down how to make money.
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-18 03:30
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wow you guys are super friendly and nice and helpful. Keep giving more questions on to of questions though but oh well.
Chaos now I need to get to work in barri dungeon mining.. loads of fun.
IronWoman. Alright I`m a human. Can i keep the glory sword for fashion? oh oh.. using firebolt to clear all that content stuff sounds great.
And now You`ve got my wondering on how the differnt styles of bows work. Not having much luck finding a summary and testing them out.. they all seem fairly the same.
You are right money isnt much of an issue for me in-game I`ve gotten down how to make money.
It used to be for bows that it was speed vs range, did you want a bow that shot arrows faster? Well it would have short range. Wanted a bow that had really long range? It'll be kinda sluggish with shooting. But now there are a handful of bows that give you the best of both worlds. A big beginner favorite would be the wing bow, it has excellent range and really good speed, but it also knocks back enemies with 2 shots instead of 3 which is a huge plus.
Generally I'd recommend a beginner to stick with a wing or ring bow to start off with, and later on get an HLB (you can snatch one r1 pre-reforged for around ~1mil nowadays or an r2 pre-reforged for around 300k~500k). I wouldn't really bother with an HLB unless it's pre-reforged as the upgrade costs would be kind of high for a beginner.
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iittala wrote on 2013-12-18 06:40
That explains a lot..
I keep running into this strange occurrence too... After a certain time.. homesteads all the sudden give 8 herbs per patch instead of 5.. I can`t figure out whats going on?? Pretty sure I get a party bonus too on homesteads during this time.. Is there like a homestead happy hour?
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Syliara wrote on 2013-12-18 06:42
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That explains a lot..
I keep running into this strange occurrence too... After a certain time.. homesteads all the sudden give 8 herbs per patch instead of 5.. I can`t figure out whats going on?? Pretty sure I get a party bonus too on homesteads during this time.. Is there like a homestead happy hour?
Homestead thunder. Thunder and rainy weather will affect how much you can get from each node. If you have homestead thunder you can get 8 from one node versus 5 from normal weather. The same goes for thunder and rain outside ur homestead.
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ironwoman wrote on 2013-12-19 09:40
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IronWoman. Alright I`m a human. Can i keep the glory sword for fashion? oh oh.. using firebolt to clear all that content stuff sounds great. And now You`ve got my wondering on how the differnt styles of bows work. Not having much luck finding a summary and testing them out.. they all seem fairly the same.
No, don't keep the glory sword. Scythes are better for fashion purposes.
As for bows, go with wing bow or leather long bow for beginner stages. If you plan to get an ego, get an ego ring bow. For long term investment in general, HLB is the answer.
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flipside101 wrote on 2013-12-19 15:06
Ummmm.... Have you never heard of the
Mabinogi Wiki Site???
90% of the resources people have are in here (the other 10% could be inaccuracies about current content, and future content being on different sites).