[Mabinogi-KR] The Update that Will Change the World

• Sepia wrote on 2013-12-21 20:43

  Quote from Kenero;1180741:

  What comes with fame comes jealously and admiration.

  
  
  Wait, we had fame?
• Ascard wrote on 2013-12-21 20:46
  I have no clue what the heck we are talking about
  
  Interesting season 2 >_<
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2013-12-21 20:48

  Quote from Ascard;1180743:

  I have no clue what the heck we are talking about
  
  Interesting season 2 >_<

  
  
  This makes two of us, dunno about any of this mumbo jumbo. :(
• Kapra wrote on 2013-12-21 21:31

  Quote from Darkboy132;1180651:

  I agree completely. Its like how Millia got all that attention for having Irinid's power.

  
  Wait, she has Irinid's power? Where did it say that? I thought her power was because she was half Shaman-half Milletian.
  

  Quote from Sepia;1180742:

  Wait, we had fame?

  
  Ya, for one, when you wear the G1 or G3 title and talk to NPCs. After G8, everyone in Iria knows you as the Dragon Conductor, in G9, they talk about the hero who killed Glas many years ago. Even the Tara Rath guards feel overwhelmed when they talk to you. Throughout the later gens, they keep talking to you as if they know of you. Everyone seems to know of the players acomplishments.
• Kyubey wrote on 2013-12-21 21:36

  Quote from Darkboy132;1180651:

  I agree completely. Its like how Millia got all that attention for having Irinid's power. Everyone's probably going to be dicks to us, again, and I bet when we see Millia again she's going to CAPS LOCK mode on us, AGAIN.

  
  
  Millia is the reincarnation of Triona which was the vessel for Macha till she died in g3. The powers she has are the divine powers from Macha, not Iridnid (that's Neamhain who lost her powers and that's why dragons are back, physis is warming up and connous is cooling down)
• Elleanior wrote on 2013-12-21 23:19

  Quote from Kyubey;1180752:

  Millia is the reincarnation of Triona which was the vessel for Macha till she died in g3. The powers she has are the divine powers from Macha, not Iridnid (that's Neamhain who lost her powers and that's why dragons are back, physis is warming up and connous is cooling down)

  
  
  Was this explicitly stated at some point...? did I miss the budget meeting, or is it just speculation? Because regardless, Millia is a potential vessel for Macha.
  
  Also, if that lovely father-son discussion in g10 is to be believed, then Triona is most likely Neamhain's daughter. Just saying.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-12-22 00:10
  I really hope we find out more about Cessair. The more I do episode 10 the more similarities I see between her and Macha. She seemed all too eager when she sensed Macha's power.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2013-12-22 00:52

  Quote from Kapra;1180751:

  Wait, she has Irinid's power? Where did it say that? I thought her power was because she was half Shaman-half Milletian.

  
  
  Akule said she had divine potential that was equal to Irinid back in episode 1.
  
  

  Quote from Kyubey;1180752:

  Millia is the reincarnation of Triona which was the vessel for Macha till she died in g3.

  
  
  No. There's no evidence indicating this.
• Kapra wrote on 2013-12-22 01:01
  Please do not assume without proper evidence:
  

  
  
  • Millia is at all related to Triona, all that they have in common as far as the game is concerned is they both have red hair, which is all it takes for someone to remind Ruairi of her apparently.
    
  • Elatha is Morgant/Lugh's son. For all you know, Morgant only raised him or only even had him for a few days before giving him to an adoptive parent from his real parents, just a deliverer.
    
  • If Elatha is Morgant's son, this does not mean Neamhain and Morgant are married, this does not mean Neamhain is Triona's mother. Relationships like this were considered normal until the last few centuries, in western culture.
    
• KINGZZ wrote on 2013-12-22 01:33
  Question anything new on dream season 2 yet? if not know when we gonna get more info? there got to be MORE TO THIS THEN JUST A NEW DUNGEON
• Elleanior wrote on 2013-12-22 02:32

  Quote from Kapra;1180788:

  Please do not assume without proper evidence:
  

  
  
  • Millia is at all related to Triona, all that they have in common as far as the game is concerned is they both have red hair, which is all it takes for someone to remind Ruairi of her apparently.
    
  • Elatha is Morgant/Lugh's son. For all you know, Morgant only raised him or only even had him for a few days before giving him to an adoptive parent from his real parents, just a deliverer.
    
  • If Elatha is Morgant's son, this does not mean Neamhain and Morgant are married, this does not mean Neamhain is Triona's mother. Relationships like this were considered normal until the last few centuries, in western culture.
    

  
  
  Unless the phrase was mistranslated (always a possibility) "took part in my birth" is about the equivalent of stating "biological parent", or at the very least, a surrogate parent. (And I doubt that the later is exactly possible with Erinn's technology.) Maybe some strange cosmic phenomenon makes it accurate in a different way. Until the later is proven otherwise, the first shall be interpreted as such. I see a lot of similarities between the two while we're on that note.
  
  And yeah, Neamhain isn't necessarily Triona's mother. It makes sense to me if she is, but it also makes sense if she isn't. Regardless of those, I also hope that we get some more information about Cessair's Heart. I highly doubt that her umpteen similarities to Macha are coincidence.
• Kapra wrote on 2013-12-22 09:11

  Quote from Elleanior;1180817:

  Unless the phrase was mistranslated (always a possibility) "took part in my birth" is about the equivalent of stating "biological parent", or at the very least, a surrogate parent.
  

  
  There could be the person who helped deliver the baby, the god parents, the person who cut the chord; he could be the one who introduced the two parents, which makes him responsible for Elatha's existence, for all you know he could be Elatha's grandfather, not father. There are too many possibilities to assume such a specific scenerio from a broad line, and basing it entirely on one line. If we had to assume anything, based on the English wording, him saying take a part in my birth sounds like he's implying he did something other than fathered/mothered. But my point being its wrong to assume anything, and telling others your assumptions only spreads false knowledge.
  

  Quote from Elleanior;1180817:

  
  Until the later is proven otherwise, the first shall be interpreted as such.

  
  This is my issue. It's never "if x doesn't exist, then its y". If you prove x doesn't exist, all that says is x doesn't exist, not that it is y. If I don't know if something is accidental or not, I can't say it was done on purpose if I don't know it was an accident, all I can say is I don't know if it was an accident or done on purpose. Know what I mean?
• Elleanior wrote on 2013-12-22 11:41

  Quote from Kapra;1180919:

  There could be the person who helped deliver the baby, the god parents, the person who cut the chord; he could be the one who introduced the two parents, which makes him responsible for Elatha's existence, for all you know he could be Elatha's grandfather, not father. There are too many possibilities to assume such a specific scenerio from a broad line, and basing it entirely on one line. If we had to assume anything, based on the English wording, him saying take a part in my birth sounds like he's implying he did something other than fathered/mothered. But my point being its wrong to assume anything, and telling others your assumptions only spreads false knowledge.
  
  This is my issue. It's never "if x doesn't exist, then its y". If you prove x doesn't exist, all that says is x doesn't exist, not that it is y. If I don't know if something is accidental or not, I can't say it was done on purpose if I don't know it was an accident, all I can say is I don't know if it was an accident or done on purpose. Know what I mean?

  
  
  I think that I missed some words in my last statement. It should have been "Until the later is proven otherwise, the first shall typically be interpreted as the truth". Your issue is your issue (I'm debating whether I should consider it to be a fortunate issue or unfortunate...), and honestly, we could probably fill pages of debate over that topic. Rather unfortunately for us both, this isn't a thread to debate the (assumed) bastard's origins and relatives. He lived a sucky life, spoke awesome words, and died in style. That's probably all that this thread really needs to remember about him, if that.
  
  If it is "the update that will change the world", then I imagine that we're all quite curious how it will "change the world"... I just hope that it includes an old dungeon overhaul.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-12-22 12:45

  Quote from KINGZZ;1180801:

  Question anything new on dream season 2 yet? if not know when we gonna get more info? there got to be MORE TO THIS THEN JUST A NEW DUNGEON

  
  
  There is some talk of possibilities but as they are not 100% confirmed I cannot reveal what those are quite yet. So far KR hasn't officially announced anything yet but rest assured there will be more than a new dungeon and storyline.
  
  

  Quote from Elleanior;1180946:

  If it is "the update that will change the world", then I imagine that we're all quite curious how it will "change the world"... I just hope that it includes an old dungeon overhaul.

  
  
  There has been talk for awhile that such things were in the works.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2013-12-22 20:37
  Well, they definitely need to make changes to Tir Na Nog, its just filler ever since G3. Same with Avon; it got left behind in G14.