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Krito wrote on 2013-12-25 02:19

I have not been playing intensely until recently.

It seems there are new updates to the game.

Was there an update to the magic? How is it now?

Is it good for DPS as archery or in a pvp?
Cyrene wrote on 2013-12-25 02:23

You can find all the changes here:

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Patches#Merlin

Firebolt cc4 with the new wand mastery equals/better than elf mag dps. Its so much easier to hit endgame with magic than archery. It almost isn't worth it to pursue archery. Also firebolt doesn't miss. Magic is also more versatile with the addition of snap casting and moonwalking. Also Magic Damage's formula has been revised into: (Max Base Damage + (Skill Factor * Magic Attack)) * (1+[Bolt Mastery + Magic Weapon Mastery + Element Mastery + Title bonus]) * Charge Multiplier.

And skill coefficients got changed.
(taken off the same wiki page above)

That wand repair and durability loss is a problem for some, but you pretty much can make 100k depending on the sm your doing per run so that problem disappears. Oh and mana potions.

#gottahavemybows

Anyways this should be in questions

Happy holidays!
k1nsoo wrote on 2013-12-25 02:25

There has been some updates, such as new skills (meteor strike, spell walk, snap casting), but most importantly the stats for magic also changed.

Before the patch it used to be 20INT=1 magic attack but now its 5INT=1 magic attack.

The dps for mages significantly increased, but it is still not really the best especially if the mobs are scattered (shadow missions for example). Hail storm and blaze really shine on NPC/Lord party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmuz5t37_kc

This would be a good video for end-game mage
Ascard wrote on 2013-12-25 02:34

magic is OP
Krito wrote on 2013-12-25 02:37

Thanks for the answers.

It seems it is the time for developing a mage char at last, as I have always liked magic for its graphics.

It is good that magic is better than archery now so I can turn my elf into a mage, now he can clear dungeons much faster than the human I guess due to the running speed. I didn't like archery due to the miss rate.
ironwoman wrote on 2013-12-25 05:21

Quote from Pallie;1181541:
You can find all the changes here:

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Patches#Merlin

Firebolt cc4 with the new wand mastery equals/better than elf mag dps. Its so much easier to hit endgame with magic than archery. It almost isn't worth it to pursue archery. Also firebolt doesn't miss. Magic is also more versatile with the addition of snap casting and moonwalking. Also Magic Damage's formula has been revised into: (Max Base Damage + (Skill Factor * Magic Attack)) * (1+[Bolt Mastery + Magic Weapon Mastery + Element Mastery + Title bonus]) * Charge Multiplier.

And skill coefficients got changed.
(taken off the same wiki page above)

That wand repair and durability loss is a problem for some, but you pretty much can make 100k depending on the sm your doing per run so that problem disappears. Oh and mana potions.

#gottahavemybows

Anyways this should be in questions

Happy holidays!

I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree with this statement.
Yes, magic got revamped, but to say that firebolt cc4 with updates is equal/better than elf mag is false.
Firebolt hits its limit much earlier than elf mag would. To say that it almost isn't worth it to pursue archery is also false. Magic and archery have different uses for different situations, and archery is more than fine where it's at. And the dex that you get from range is more than useful for puppets, not to mention the sniper title.
Only thing that is about as strong as magnum from magic is firebolt. And elf mag will still outdamage it by a good margin at the end.
I'm not saying firebolt's bad, it's great. But magic is NOT better than range. Magic has been merely balanced to the point it's actually useful now, compared to how range was already useful.
To the OP, I know you've been wondering around about your character development or what not, but what I suggest is that you continute on with what you've been working on previously. If you were already mage, go ahead, but if you weren't, I suggest you finish whatever you were doing.
Syliara wrote on 2013-12-25 05:54

Why isnt this in questions and help section...?
Cyrene wrote on 2013-12-25 06:08

Quote from ironwoman;1181596:
I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree with this statement.
Yes, magic got revamped, but to say that firebolt cc4 with updates is equal/better than elf mag is false.
Firebolt hits its limit much earlier than elf mag would. To say that it almost isn't worth it to pursue archery is also false. Magic and archery have different uses for different situations, and archery is more than fine where it's at. And the dex that you get from range is more than useful for puppets, not to mention the sniper title.
Only thing that is about as strong as magnum from magic is firebolt. And elf mag will still outdamage it by a good margin at the end.
I'm not saying firebolt's bad, it's great. But magic is NOT better than range. Magic has been merely balanced to the point it's actually useful now, compared to how range was already useful.
To the OP, I know you've been wondering around about your character development or what not, but what I suggest is that you continute on with what you've been working on previously. If you were already mage, go ahead, but if you weren't, I suggest you finish whatever you were doing.

Ahh my mistake, I was wrong to say its eqaul or better.. but I still feel its much easier to pursue endgame mage than archery.. All of those lifeskills really. But this depends on the person and some people can grind those life skills like nothing and others can't. Archery is still my favorite class though and because of mabi I'm gonna become a real archer someday
EndlessDreams wrote on 2013-12-25 06:54

Magic is very good at range in both single target and AoE. It doesn't miss, and is reliable. Even Bolts spells have a significant increase in damage.

Magic can have better DPS than archery, but depends on situations... it is very different from range.

As for the PvP part, with so much new skills, and overall increase in character power, PvP's goal of landing the first hit and keeping pressure is more important than ever. Doesn't matter what skill set you use.
Krito wrote on 2013-12-25 10:26

I also wanted people to talk about their ideas rather than just answering the question so I put it in the talk section.
Krito wrote on 2013-12-25 10:32

With the elf char which I am thinking of making a ranger and a fast slayer from a distance, I started with magic. The mistake was I started with ice bolt rather than the firebolt. So I get the APs back by the help of the potions which I got from the events at those times.

Then I started archery with the elf, acquiring elf only archery skills too. I have magnum at r6. But the thing is it can miss at wrong times, and also it has a loading+aiming time loss (I know elf magnum is faster with 0.5 sec loading time but time is also needed for aiming too). Therefore, I think it is close to firebolt in terms of attack speed.

What firebolt lacked before was the damage output which we have now and it is easy for firebolt to get to high damage level than magnum since archery depends on those monotonous life skills too. So I guess as a whole (with other skills and such) magic is more OP then archery now.