sorrow sonata effects vs mobs

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Kyubey wrote on 2014-01-12 02:03

Ok we can all agree this skill is painfully useless however i've decided to run some tests to see it's real effect (thought was glitched at 1st and it wasn't working).

1st of all, skill can only take effect if its cast before mobs spawn as observed through mob speed and stat reduction
[SPOILER="Affect on walking speed"]
Pre-cast
[video=youtube;4onHX3--QAE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4onHX3--QAE[/video]
Pos-cast
[video=youtube;6rqViIyL4SI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rqViIyL4SI[/video]

I also tried to cast it on top of mobs to obtain the same result of no speed reduction. The vids also show how bad the speed reduction is lol.
[/SPOILER]

Stat wise the skill does what's intended and reduces 30% of the mob stats (tests made on golden bone lancers on gop elite)
normal

[Image: http://puu.sh/6hQ6N.jpg]

under sorrow sonata

[Image: http://puu.sh/6hQai.jpg]

However str/max deduction doesn't match. Considering mobs lose 48 str (160x30%=112 // 48 loss) they should've lost 20 max and not 60 as observed.

Considering a possible hidden effect on the skill i went ahead and tried it on myself.
normal

[Image: http://puu.sh/6hQiE.jpg]

excuse my shitty dual wield

under sorrow sonata

[Image: http://puu.sh/6hQkV.jpg]

Back to the deduction formula, i am losing 270.9 str (108.36 max) which matches perfectly my stats

To conclude,
>either chorus have a hidden max debuff on mobs OR...
>mobs take their melee damage from more than just str (doesn't match anyway) OR...
>str/max formula for mobs isn't the same as ours (2.5str / 1 max)
Cyrene wrote on 2014-01-12 02:12

thats a pretty cool find
SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-01-12 02:42

I believe after enlightenment mobs no longer use the same formulas as us for damage. Or else a fomor alchemists wind blast would be a mass weapon of destruction. Just an observation though, I have no actual tests done.
Kyubey wrote on 2014-01-12 03:46

Quote from SlurpTASTY;1187126:
I believe after enlightenment mobs no longer use the same formulas as us for damage. Or else a fomor alchemists wind blast would be a mass weapon of destruction. Just an observation though, I have no actual tests done.

Windblast damage isn't reflected on character screen max. Even if a alchemist have 9999 stamina (which only 1500 count) and 900+ max damage, if windblast is at rF the damage won't be that much.

It's also really hard to tell what are the mob stats since only possesseable mobs are the ones in gop
Aubog007 wrote on 2014-01-12 13:19

Thanks for the find, still won't be using it in combat situations, simply because the fact that it sucks still brings me sorrow, maybe someday they can give this skill life again. But until then, ill use it as a movement debuff.