Archery Gear

• Alto wrote on 2014-01-17 18:48
  Hey, I was wondering what are optimal archery enchants and any specific armor sets? Also which is better, HLB or demonic bow and S or R special upgrade path?
  
  Thanks in advance.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-17 18:59

  Quote from Alto;1188887:

  Hey, I was wondering what are optimal archery enchants and any specific armor sets? Also which is better, HLB or demonic bow and S or R special upgrade path?
  
  Thanks in advance.

  
  
  Full Bohemian 10/10 set, HLB with R upgrades.
  
  Best Enchants:
  
  Head: Oblivion Target
  Gloves: Solo Difficult
  Body: Encore Ambush (or Daunting if you can somehow get ahold of it)
  Shoes: Solo Butterfly
  Accessories: Purple Hearts w/10 dex each Precise Lilly (or Oblivion Avenger/Fierce if you can find them and afford)
  Weapon: HLB with R6 Ele 6 Shadow Hunter Thorn Lotus + Special Arrow Bundles (Alternatively: Shadow Hunter Thorn Lotus R6 Bhafel Hunter w/ele 6+ Bhafel Huntress if you can afford them)
  
  All Assuming Max rolls and that you are human (if you are elf a couple enchants can be different but basically the same effect)
  
  Easy to get decent enchants:
  
  Head: Oblivion Dexterity
  Gloves: Oblivion Camo
  Body: Encore Ambush
  Shoes: Oblivion Butterfly
  Accessories: Purple hearts w/high dex roll Precise Lilly
  Weapon: HLB with R6 ele 6 Shadow Hunter Thorn Lotus+ special arrow bundle
  
  All assuming max rolls and that you are human
  
  Might be missing a couple things but I rushed it, thats still most of it.
• Bunny wrote on 2014-01-17 19:00
  [FONT="Arial"]The best set for an archer would be a Bohemian set (10/10 magnum) since it gives a 15% magnum shot bonus.
  
  HLB>Demonic bow in terms of cost. You can buy a prereforged r1 or r2 HLB, which saves a lot of money on reforges.
  Red upgrade for critical damage, because at some point stats/max will make red>blue. Make sure to red upgrade all weapons besides magic ones.
  A decent/cost effective set would be this if you are just starting archery:
  
  [Oblivion][Dexterity] Bohemian Hat
  [Special][Camo] Bohemian Wear
  [Oblivion][Camo] Bohemian Gloves
  [Oblivion][Butterfly] Bohemian Shoes
  
  Camo ES is around 100k, but you may have to reroll several times to get 7+ max. This shouldn't be too much of a problem since bohemian sets are cheap as well.
  Special ES can be anywhere from 300-500k.
  Dexterity ES is around 400k.
  Butterfly ES is a bit harder to find, and usually goes for 600k.
  Oblivion is the most expensive (2m on Alexina for the ES.)
  
  For the bow, I would go for [Glorious][Fancy] if you don't want to spend too much money on enchant protections for [Thorn Lotus] and what-not.
  
  **The post above mine is very expensive, but if you can afford it (and if you have the skills ranked for the enchants), go for it. r6+ enchants do require you to have enchant protection potions if you do not want to replace the item upon failure.[/FONT]
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-17 19:11

  Quote from Bunny;1188891:

  [FONT="Arial"]
  
  **The post above mine is very expensive, but if you can afford it (and if you have the skills ranked for the enchants), go for it. r6+ enchants do require you to have enchant protection potions if you do not want to replace the item upon failure.[/FONT]

  
  
  They did say the most optimal so I spared no cost. Also gave an easy to get set of enchanted after tho.
• Proxied wrote on 2014-01-17 19:16
  Optimal enchants really depend on how much money you have/are willing to spend. Accurate information can't be tailored to your needs until you state your price ranges. Everything else has already been answered. The enchants listed in above posts are very good enchant choices, but some may be out of your price range and none of us are currently aware of that.
• Bunny wrote on 2014-01-17 19:16

  Quote from Nui;1188892:

  They did say the most optimal so I spared no cost. Also gave an easy to get set of enchanted after tho.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]I know you explained the most expensive endgame set. I can read. I was just stating that it is very expensive, because it is.
  And unless OP tells us how much gold/NX he has and is willing to spend, i'm going to doubt that this guy has 500m handy.
  If OP only has around 20m, then the decent set would be the most optimal.[/FONT]
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-01-17 19:17
  What server?
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-01-17 19:25
  DPS-wise, R upgrades are better than S if you have higher than 400 bow max (which you will eventually :D). Also, damage-wise and range-wise, Demonic bows are better than HLB but consider that HLB pre-reforged items are much cheaper and cost-efficient than the Demonic ones. Bhafel can be great but I consider it useless without a huntress -- I wouldn't recommend bhafel unless you are 100% sure you are going to get a huntress.
• Alto wrote on 2014-01-17 19:52
  Ah, apologies. I worded the post a bit weirdly, I know. I have around 15m to burn in regards to gear, and yes I am human. I'm also on the Mari server.
• Proxied wrote on 2014-01-17 19:59

  Quote from Alto;1188901:

  Ah, apologies. I worded the post a bit weirdly, I know. I have around 15m to burn in regards to gear, and yes I am human. I'm also on the Mari server.

  
  
  I would follow bunny's post. I'm unfamiliar with the prices in that server for the enchants she listed, but if they are somewhat similar to alexina's you should be able to complete her list, or come close to it depending on your luck with stepping the weapon, and reforging if you intend on going for an elemental reforge. Maybe even encore camo/ambush bohemian wear if you get extremely lucky. Not to mention if you can't complete it, you will surely be making more money in the future to help reach your goal.
  
  edit: Yeah going for ambush is probably a much better alternative to camo if you feel like grinding it out as ironwoman said, and ranking (or already have) blunt mastery r1. Not to mention those who go for camo on wear (or at least myself) intend on getting ambush in the future. This may be problematic depending on what you do to your wear in the future. I kind of regret going for camo when I could have grinded out ambush and not need to worry about enchant protection potions now.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-01-17 20:02
  I'd say Ambush > Camo in almost all circumstances.
  Ambush is a griding enchant (you don't even have to grind much) with much superior stats.
  I can understand camo for gloves or shoes, but I wouldn't put it on clothes.
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-01-17 20:12
  Okay!
  
  I would go for this then:
  
  Oblivion/Nostalgic Dex Headgear
  Encore Ambush Bodywear
  Solo Camo Gloves
  Solo Camo/Butterfly Shoes
  r5 HLB ele level 5-6
  Oblivion/Nostalgic/Precise Lily Accessories
  
  Solo should be a gradual goal if you can manage to spent time doing desert dragon raids. As I understand it, it's scarce to come by raid burns in Mari? Camo should be used in place of butterfly if you don't use mana shield.
  
  If you can buy pre-r1 gloves, I would go for crash shot fragment damage since you're a human. Same goes for a pre-r1 hat but go for max fragment range on that. I generally don't consider the bohemian wear worth the pay-off for humans unless you're willing to blow a lot of NX on it lol...
  
  Lastly, this set builds on the idea that you will be using overture to push out more damage in the future so if you can spare the AP, rank the skill once you get nice roll encore.
• Proxied wrote on 2014-01-17 20:17

  Quote from Yuuki Asuna;1188904:

  Okay!
  
  I would go for this then:
  
  Oblivion/Nostalgic Dex Headgear
  Encore Ambush Bodywear
  Solo Camo Gloves
  Solo Camo/Butterfly Shoes
  r5 HLB ele level 5-6
  Oblivion/Nostalgic/Precise Lily Accessories
  
  Solo should be a gradual goal if you can manage to spent time doing desert dragon raids. As I understand it, it's scarce to come by raid burns in Mari? Camo should be used in place of butterfly if you don't use mana shield.
  
  If you can buy pre-r1 gloves, I would go for crash shot fragment damage since you're a human. Same goes for a pre-r1 hat but go for max fragment range on that. I generally don't consider the bohemian wear worth the pay-off for humans unless you're willing to blow a lot of NX on it lol...
  
  Lastly, this set builds on the idea that you will be using overture to push out more damage in the future so if you can spare the AP, rank the skill once you get nice roll encore.

  
  
  This post got me thinking since you didn't bother to mention it in your thread, do you intend on reforging your equips at all or just going for enchants? If you are going for no reforges bohemian is the best option. If you are going for reforges then pre r1 stuff and reforging is probably your best option for armor. If you are going to have a ton of money from one source or another, bohemian and reforging it from scratch is the best option, but this is extremely expensive. If you favor magnum shot, you are going to need magnum level 8 or higher reforge on gloves to surpass the bonuses you would get from the bohemian wear. If you favor crash shot damage (I personally don't) then don't worry about that. About solo, I don't really feel like getting solo enchants because i'd be rolling over oblivion, they are expensive, have a lower chance to succeed, and unless the music skill effect increases your personal buff percentages (I'm pretty positive it doesn't) I'm usually involved with people who have already decked out their overture/a demonic gloomy sunday so my overture will always pale in comparison so I have no intentions of getting solo. This of course depends on the people you associate yourself with and what not. Just something to take into consideration!
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-01-17 20:25

  Quote from Proxied;1188906:

  This post got me thinking since you didn't bother to mention it in your thread, do you intend on reforging your equips at all or just going for enchants? If you are going for no reforges bohemian is the best option. If you are going for reforges then pre r1 stuff and reforging is probably your best option for armor. If you are going to have a ton of money from one source or another, bohemian and reforging it from scratch is the best option, but this is extremely expensive. If you favor magnum shot, you are going to need magnum level 8 or higher reforge on gloves to surpass the bonuses you would get from the bohemian wear. If you favor crash shot damage (I personally don't) then don't worry about that.

  
  
  I would argue that the magnum cool down for humans makes the crash shot reforge more valuable but it really depends on the style of the user's combat.
• Proxied wrote on 2014-01-17 20:31

  Quote from Yuuki Asuna;1188908:

  I would argue that the magnum cool down for humans makes the crash shot reforge more valuable but it really depends on the style of the user's combat.

  
  
  Well I'll tell you why I don't like crash shot reforge, and a lot of it depends on my personal equipment setup and playstyle.
  
  1. I feel like the crash shot reforge severely lacks in %/level. Unreforged crash shot does fine.
  2. if you are going to argue about the cooldowns, well, crash shots cooldown is a huge turnoff to me, especially when it misses.
  3. Magnum shots damage under the effect of the bohemian set scales higher with magnum shot being reforged.
  4. Maximum crash shot fragment reforge on my wear does more than enough for me in terms of damage. Of course being situational, my initial crash shot will increase by 150% damage per extra target hit. A max roll on crash shot damage does around half of one extra target(doesn't apply to the fragments themselves, but I can live without that for sure).
  5. my premium combo card (CS -> mag -> mag -> mag -> mag -> mag)
  6. My favorite feature of the game is martial arts tournament, I use magnum shot almost all the time aside from opening with crash shot.
  7. I got a high roll magnum shot reforge before crash shot anyway, I wouldn't be able to push myself to roll over something like that.