Vivace's usefulness to Alchemy?

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Tropa wrote on 2014-02-18 22:37

Lately I've been using bard skills more offen(Actually working on it's Grandmaster, too)

Currently Have
- Rank1 Vivace
- Monerato Gloomy Sunday(Not done upgrading) +10 Musical Buff Effect

When I use Vivace, the effects are:
15.40%(Normal)
16.94%(Marvelous)
20.02%(Haunting)
- Not entirely noticeable when charging WC or Flameburst

Now, when I switch to Yvona title, instead of God's Feather...
16.28%(Normal)
17.91%(Marvelous)
21.16%(Haunting)
- Not much going on there, despite the increase of 8 Music Buff effect.

I know I'm still missing other sources of effects(5 from GM bard, Gloomy upgrades and Playing Instrument Effect Level 10~20)
[SIZE="1"]Sidenote: Can't get the Vivace Alchemy Casting Speed reforge, since my shoes are already reforged.[/SIZE]

Main questions

Will I notice any difference when I finish the Gloomy Sunday upgrades and GM bard?

Will the Playing instrument reforge be worth it mainly for Vivace and occasional BFO?
M wrote on 2014-02-18 22:54

Well without any special titles, not GM bard, and my upgraded gloomy sunday (not equipping my solo enchants) I get 18.26% with a normal vivace.
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(adding my solo enchantsx2) I go up to a whole 18.7% boost (about 21.7% I think excellent). I haven't tested with titles, I usually just use nao/sniper and forget about it.

It's hard to say if the reforges are worth it. If you have nothing better to do, sure why not. In reality though if you have other stuff to reforge or work on, I wouldn't stress too much on it right now. It will cost you probably 8-15m in reforges (ruairi price) to get a decent reforge if you're kinda lucky (average among friends/self). You will probably only see a couple % boosts, 16->18 for example lol

I don't notice speed on casting as much as I notice it on melee auto-attack, damage is definitely where I notice the music buffs most (bfo+range)
Syliara wrote on 2014-02-18 22:59

The music buffs make a bigger difference with the more you actually have. Once you finish upgrades, there should be a noticeable increase in % and with an increase in levels of reforge you should notice an even bigger increase in %. However the reason vivace isn't really used that much even for alchemy and magic (at least from wat ive seen), is because the % increases dont make a noticeable difference in your casting speed. While bfo can have noticeable increases even in small % increases vivace wont make a noticeable change for your casting times. Honestly if you are only going to use vivace then I dont think you should go all out, however if you plan to use something like bfo as well then i recommend getting a r1 gloomy, finish upgrades, and putting allegro on it because it is very noticeable increase in maximum damage.
Tropa wrote on 2014-02-18 23:02

Alright, thanks for the feedback!

I guess its not worth the stress if It can't hit 28%~30%, oh well.

Quote from Nui;1199535:
putting allegro on it because it is very noticeable increase in maximum damage.

Is the +1 Music buff worth it? Not entirely sure if BFO still/or even effects alchemy at all, though I can easily test it.
Syliara wrote on 2014-02-18 23:07

Quote from Tropa;1199538:
Alright, thanks for the feedback!

I guess its not worth the stress if It can't hit 28%~30%, oh well.

Is the +1 Music buff worth it? Not entirely sure if BFO still/or even effects alchemy at all, though I can easily test it.

Well that was more combined with the other things, or an example. However considering how easy it is to get ahold of gloomies i dont see why not just put it on one. However it seems you already reforged ur current gloomy so that is entirely up to you.