Categorizing Skill Set, How would you rate them?

• Homin wrote on 2014-03-04 04:20

  Quote from Nalgor;1203820:

  What about sandburst, windblast, frozen blast, life drain and barrier spikes? that is not utility?

  
  
  I think it's more debuff then utility. But, yeah. You can say that it's utility because some skill cause very low-damage to be called attack skill lol.
  
  But from my perspective, I think those skill are more Crowd Control then utility (atleast what I used it for). Sand Burst used for dropping aggro in tight situation, I don't think anyone would just used Sand Burst when you fight only 1 monster... Wind Blast is also like Sand Burst but not dropping aggro. I highly doubt someone will used it for Crowd Control, also have less utility then Sand Burst. Frozen Blast is very useful in Crowd Control debuff skill. Life Drain also have high utility but I can't say for sure since it have high damage too... Barrier Spikes ... Well, I really didn't use it in SM very much. I think it's only useful in some SM only...
  
  But I admitted I forgot about those skill completely XD. If you want me to rate the utility again, I gonna say 2/5. But If there're Debuff score I gonna throw it at 4/5 XD.
• Osu wrote on 2014-03-04 15:49
  Looks like fun.. gonna throw out that calling it utility/support is a waste though.. since utility can have other meanings, and support is straightforward in meaning. So I'll separate those two for the hell of it.
  
  All human viewpoint.. I've played everything, but only on humans.
  It's also a pre-reforge assumed, as I'd like more realistic opinions for people.
  
  Combat
  Single Target: 3/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility: 3/5 Many moves for different situations.
  Support: 1/5 Only because the ability to support is partially mentality.
  Tankyness: 5/5 Heavy armor, strength, shields.
  
  Lances
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility: 2/5
  Support: 1/5
  Tankyness: 4/5 Minus one for no shield, but still strength dependent and heavy armor friendly.
  
  Archery
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 3/5
  Utility: 2/5 Not many moves on humans.
  Support: 1/5 Again, mentality is all that gets it a point.
  Tankyness: 2/5 Light armor.
  
  Magic
  Single Target: 5/5 Just because those big ass spells can be used on one enemy if you prefer.
  Multi Target: 5/5 No need to explain this one.
  Crowd Control: 4/5 Points for large scale death, one off for large scale aggro. That's hardly control~
  Utility: 5/5
  Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 4/5 Heavy armor friendly+shields if using int./bolt magic.
  Don't think I'm gonna give points to using your MP to shield yourself- learn to play better than that.
  [s]Everything would be 5/5 with that anyway.[/s]
  
  Alchemy
  Single Target: 3/5 Would be 4 but charge time is a thing half the time.
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 5/5
  Utility: 5/5
  Support: 4/5
  Tankyness: 4/5 Heavy armor friendly+guard cylinders.
  
  Fighter
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 1/5
  Crowd Control: 1/5
  Utility: 3/5 Many moves but not really good for too, too many situations..
  Support: 1/5
  Tankyness: 2/5 Just light armor.
  
  Music
  Single Target: 2/5 Only Dischord.
  Multi Target: 1/5 See above.
  Crowd Control: 4/5 Makes bitches go to sleep.
  Utility: 4/5 Lots of moves for many situations.
  Support: 5/5 Buffs for any type of strategy.
  Tankyness: 3/5 Heavy armor friendly, can be 4/5 with strength.
  
  Puppetry
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 5/5
  Crowd Control: 4/5 Again the whole mass death thing..
  Utility: 3/5 Many moves, mild usefulness.
  Support: 2/5 Added bonus for collecting piles of enemies.
  Tankyness: 3/5 Light armor, strength dependent to a degree.
  
  Gunslinger
  Single Target: 4/5 800%
  Multi Target: 4/5
  Crowd Control: 3/5
  Utility: 3/5 Good amount of moves, mildly useful variety.
  Support: 1/5 Mentalityyyy
  Tankyness: 4/5 Can be considered heavy armor friendly.. strength dependent to a degree.
  
  And for the hell of pointing it out, my tank rating goes by factors and not a percentage of defense.
  1 point for clothing,
  1 point for light armor(stacks with clothing),
  1 point for heavy armor(stacks with both before it),
  1 point for strength being a main/sub stat,
  1 point for shields.
• rangero wrote on 2014-03-04 15:58
  Combat/Lances
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 4/5
  Crowd Control: 3/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 5/5
  
  Archery
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 2/5 (CRASH SHOT)
  Crowd Control: 1/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 1/5
  
  Magic
  Single Target: 3/5
  Multi Target: 4/5
  Crowd Control: 5/5
  Utility/Support: 5/5
  Tankyness: 0/5
  
  Alchemy
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 4/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 2/5
  
  Fighter
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 3/5
  
  Music
  Single Target: 2/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 0/5
  
  Puppetry
  Single Target: 3/5
  Multi Target: 5/5
  Crowd Control: 5/5
  Utility/Support: 5/5
  Tankyness: 3/5
  
  Gunslinger
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 1/5
• Paradise wrote on 2014-03-04 18:05

  Quote from rangero;1203885:

  Combat/Lances
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 4/5
  Crowd Control: 3/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 5/5
  
  Archery
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 3/5 (CRASH SHOT)
  Crowd Control: 1/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 1/5
  
  Magic
  Single Target: 3/5
  Multi Target: 4/5
  Crowd Control: 5/5
  Utility/Support: 5/5
  Tankyness: 0/5
  
  Alchemy
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 3/5
  Crowd Control: 4/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 2/5
  
  Fighter
  Single Target: 5/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 3/5
  
  Music
  Single Target: 2/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 0/5
  
  Puppetry
  Single Target: 3/5
  Multi Target: 5/5
  Crowd Control: 5/5
  Utility/Support: 5/5
  Tankyness: 3/5
  
  Gunslinger
  Single Target: 3.5/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 1/5

  
  
  I think the same way as you, besides what is in bold
• Syr wrote on 2014-03-04 20:57
  Not going to account for armor and whatnot available to the class because I don't focus on tankiness.
  
  Combat/Lances
  Single Target: 4/5
  Multi Target: 2/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 5/5
  
  Magic
  Single Target: 4/5 (yeah, i use fireball to target a single mob)
  Multi Target: 5/5
  Crowd Control: 2/5 (your AoE skills make every single survivor salty)
  Utility/Support: 3/5
  Tankyness: 3/5 if mana shield, 0/5 if no mana shield
  
  Fighter
  Single Target: 6/5 (the most single target oriented skillset in the damn game)
  Multi Target: -1/5 (i thought about it for a moment and i don't think dropkick splash counts for much)
  Crowd Control: 0/5
  Utility/Support: 0.5/5 (respite)
  Tankyness: 0/5
  
  Gunslinger
  Single Target: 4/5 (flash launcher + way of the gun op)
  Multi Target: 4/5 (SR/BS op)
  Crowd Control: 1/5 ([S]SR/BS aggros everything hit if not op enough[/S])
  Utility/Support: 2/5
  Tankyness: 0/5