Elemental Reforge Questions

• KingFintchz wrote on 2014-03-04 15:15
  So I'll start off saying that there are probably a lot of threads regarding this topic but I think it'd be nice to have a kind of recent understanding of how they work.
  
  Sorry if this post is redundant.
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  To my understanding elemental reforges works like this:
  Ele 6: 55.5% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  Ele 5: 44.4% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  Ele 4: 33.3% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  Ele 3: 22.2% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  Ele 2: 11.1% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  Ele 1: 0% (+11.1% to opposite ele monsters/gear)
  
  Elemental Reforges also gain the damage bonus when going up against and opposite ele'd weapon (in pvp)
  For Example: Ice Ele Weapon would gain the +11.1% damage increase against against a Fire Ele'd weapon and visa versa.
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  What I don't understand:
  

  
  
  • The Damage reduction for same ele vs ele [ice 6 vs ice 6]
    
  • Double Ele's:
    Do double ele's conflict with each other?
    How do they add up
    i.e:
    [INDENT]Does ice 4 + lightning 2 = ele 5 (33.3% + 11.1%) [/INDENT]
    
  • Rumor behind Lightning ele being the best.
    Some say that Lightning ele is the best ele to have due to the fact that it isn't affected by its opposite ele in anyway? I'm pretty sure that's not true; but correct me if I'm wrong.
    
  • Is there a missing damage determining factor?
    Max Damage in Character Window With weapon: 580*1.55= 899; However I only hit around 729 max on elementally neutral monsters. (1.55 being the elemental damage increase)
    

  
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  Thanks you guys, again; sorry if this post is redundant.
  
  * accidentally posted this in foreign mabi content earlier >.>*
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2014-03-04 15:48

  Quote from KingFintchz;1203880:

  Elemental Reforges also gain the damage bonus when going up against and opposite ele'd weapon (in pvp)
  For Example: Ice Ele Weapon would gain the +11.1% damage increase against against a Fire Ele'd weapon and visa versa.

  
  
  This seems weird, I don't think it's true unless you tested it correctly, keep in mind that Elemental "enhancements" are not the same as Elemental reforges.
  
  Also when testing your damage on Neutral enemies, keep your balance in mind, as well as the enemies' Defense/Protection.
  
  As far as I know, elemental reforges do not conflict eachother.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-03-04 16:54
• The Damage reduction for same ele vs ele [ice 6 vs ice 6]
  
  Remember that elemental reforges give additional 11.11% dmg+ lvl of 'elemental' enchants.
  
  That is, if you have ele6, that gives you 55.55%+ element 6 enchanted effects.
  
  However, if you and your enemy have same elements, it gives you damage reduction of 11.11% per level.
  
  So for this case ice6 vs ice6:
  
  55.55%+ enemy's ice 6 (-66.66%) = -11.11%
  
  Both players (I'm assuming this is PvP Tyler) will give/receive -11.11% damage each other.
  
  
  
• Double Ele's:
  
  Do double ele's conflict with each other?
  
  
  
  Continuing from Ice 6 vs. Ice 6;
  
  
  You can increase/decrease damage given/taken depending on which element you enchant on your equipment.
  
  Let's say I have ice 6 knuckle + 8 ice enchanted equipments (2accs, helms, body, gloves, shoes, weapons, and robes):
  
  It will result total 55.55% - 88.88% = -33.33% damage given/taken.
  
  
  
  But what if ice 6 + 8 fire enchants vs. ice 6?
  
  55.55% + 22.22% (fire 6/ice 6 cancels out; fire 2 left) = +77.77% damage given/taken
  
  Again, non-elemental mobs/players aren't affected by element enchants; they don't increase or decrease given/taken damage.
  
  
  Double-elements work similar with this; reforge-wise, it is:
  (element level -1) *11.1% per line;
  
  So with Jake's bow (Lightning 5 & Ice 3),
  it will be 44.44%+22.22% = +66.66% (ele7 worth)
  
  
  
  
• Rumor behind Lightning ele being the best.
  
  
  This depends on players.
  
  Lightning DOES get affected by ICE elements; each 3 level = additional 11.11% damage given/reduced.
  Lightning has nothing to do with fire.
  
  So theory-wise, lightning can be the best,
  but keep in mind that other elements (fire/ice) can negate damage given/taken with proper elemental enchants.
  
  Using fire 6 weapon + ice 6 enchant will still deal additional 55.5% to fire 6.
  Using ice 6 weapon + fire 6 enchant will still deal additional 55.5% to ice 6.
  
  
  
• Is there a missing damage determining factor?
  
  If your Balance is 80%; your average dps will be 80% of min/max damage. So in reality, you wouldn't deal 'full' max damage listed on character stats.
  
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