Gunslinger

• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2014-03-25 08:46
  The thing with Flash Launcher is that it already has a 360% Multiplier compared to skills like Smash which only have 200%/300% at that rank.
  
  Max Damage enchants and special upgrades also aid a lot in your damage. The higher the skill multiplier, the more effective it is.
  
  

  Quote from Nui;1209662:

  I can hit 7k's with like rE flash launcher and 1.1k combined str and int and R6 Untamed Auto dowras

  
  
  And there it is.
  
  (I don't hit nearly as much yet I have ~1.5k str+int although I don't have special Upgrades and all my guns have is Crocodile)
  [S](actually I don't remember, I haven't logged Mabi for ages, I should test later!)[/S]
• Rydian wrote on 2014-03-25 10:35
  One point people half-made here that I'd like to expand on is that unlike many other skillsets that give their own required base stats (melee and lance skills give STR, ranged skills give DEX, magic skills give INT), gun skills tend to not give very much STR or INT.
  
  HP: 15+51+24+34+45+7
  176
  
  MP: 10+25+10+20+15
  80
  
  SP: 27+5+1+28+20+5+10
  96
  
  STR: 4+3+5+6+3+1
  22
  
  INT: 2+5+2+2+4+6
  21
  
  Luck: 1+4+1
  6
  
  Combat Mastery to rank 8 (for humans and giants) gives more STR than the entire gun skillset combined at R1.
  And either Icebolt, firebolt, or lightning bolt at rank 7 gives more INT than the entire gun skillset combined at R1.
• DakkonX9 wrote on 2014-03-25 12:49
  Thanks for all the help :D. Ill look into the enchant automatic because right now i wouldnt be able to afford dowra guns
• arochia246 wrote on 2014-03-25 13:42

  Quote from DakkonX9;1209713:

  Thanks for all the help :D. Ill look into the enchant automatic because right now i wouldnt be able to afford dowra guns

  
  
  Hunt the materials by yourself or with friends. Then politely ask a r1/master Engineer to make them.
  [s]Either that or bribe them like I do.[/s]
• Kenero wrote on 2014-03-25 14:10
  You need high stats.
  
  Near end-game stats and levels can produce flash launcher hitting this high:
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/3G84m]

  
  
  However getting there is a lot of investment and other classes can do it too. The only advantage is that if you can one-three shot things with shooting rush and bullet storm, it's extremely fast since the AOE's cooldown is low and has a decent reach of effect.
• Paradise wrote on 2014-03-25 14:44
  pick melee and get used to game mechanics
  you will need that a lot when using guns, or you will have trouble using it
  
  So in the end, you should not pick guns right off the bat because:
  
  -it is hard to deal with if you don't know the game mechanics too much
  -it needs high stats to deal a good amount of damage, skills give almost no stats, and base gun damage (gun+talent) will be always low
  -You will need also a good damage set (ES+Reforges), if you plan to rely on str only (warrior>gunner)
• Jake wrote on 2014-03-25 15:27
  I love guns, I have 500 combined str and int and with step 6 dowras I can get full raid contribution very easily (All my gunner skills besides dual gun master are rF or rN). It depends what you want to use them for. I sure as hell wouldn't use them at the moment in shadow missions and NPC and stuff.
  
  The point of this post is: They can be pretty useful even with bad stats/ranks. I wouldn't be able to do this with say..a bow at such low stats.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-03-25 17:50

  Quote from Darkboy132;1209673:

  I see 5k~ as pretty high, without hax reforges and enchants, and maybe not Climactic Crash. How many people can even hit that much?
  
  
  
  You're probably just boasting your superiority. I can hit 9.6k with master flash launcher (no title), 1.3k combined str and int, and unenchanted/unhaxreforged Black Stars. Though you're coming pretty damn close despite the skill rank gap...
  
  Anyway, my point is high end str and int makes a huge difference than Gunslinger skills alone.

  
  
  I'm not boasting anything lol, please don't make assumptions. My point was that photo doesn't show much because that damage isnt very indicative of anything.
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1209674:

  The thing with Flash Launcher is that it already has a 360% Multiplier compared to skills like Smash which only have 200%/300% at that rank.
  
  Max Damage enchants and special upgrades also aid a lot in your damage. The higher the skill multiplier, the more effective it is.
  
  
  
  And there it is.
  
  (I don't hit nearly as much yet I have ~1.5k str+int although I don't have special Upgrades and all my guns have is Crocodile)
  [S](actually I don't remember, I haven't logged Mabi for ages, I should test later!)[/S]

  
  
  Not hard to make R5 or R6 dowras honestly, but yes thats probably one reason why I hit what I hit with my stats as they are.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-03-25 18:48

  Quote from Darkboy132;1209673:

  I see 5k~ as pretty high, without hax reforges and enchants, and maybe not Climactic Crash. How many people can even hit that much?

  
  
  So many people can hit that digit that 5k isn't considered high damage or anymore. Or even mid damage. At least that's how I view it.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-03-25 19:17

  Quote from ironwoman;1209775:

  So many people can hit that digit that 5k isn't considered high damage or anymore.

  
  
  With enchants? With reforges? Out of all the Hard or Elite runs I do, I'm usually the one who's hitting more than 5k; all I see are 2k smashes and water cannons.
• Jake wrote on 2014-03-25 20:28

  Quote from Darkboy132;1209779:

  With enchants? With reforges? Out of all the Hard or Elite runs I do, I'm usually the one who's hitting more than 5k; all I see are 2k smashes and water cannons.

  
  
  You do you. Honestly, who cares if someone else looks down on you?
• Blassreiter wrote on 2014-03-25 20:45
  If you can clear the mission/dungeon with little to no deaths very quickly, who cares about high damage? Of course we need epeen but keep it to a minimum
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-03-25 21:15

  Quote from Darkboy132;1209779:

  With enchants? With reforges? Out of all the Hard or Elite runs I do, I'm usually the one who's hitting more than 5k; all I see are 2k smashes and water cannons.

  
  
  No enchants, no reforges. I don't know what kind of people you run elite with, but those are really bad players then.
• Friggerton wrote on 2014-03-25 21:34

  Quote from Darkboy132;1209779:

  With enchants? With reforges? Out of all the Hard or Elite runs I do, I'm usually the one who's hitting more than 5k; all I see are 2k smashes and water cannons.

  
  
  My lvl 3xx giant crits ~2k with water cannon and an unupgraded fomor water cylinder.
  
  My main elf char (lvl 12xx) crits for around 5k on a magnum with an ele 2 bow and a fox enchant set.
• Minatou wrote on 2014-03-25 22:01
  To put it simply Dakkon, don't do it. Rank up Warrior & Mage and then do Gunner (Maybe bard too).
  I have about 1500~1700 (Depending on destiny & Level) combined STR and INT, I don't have any reforges on my guns or shooting rush damage reforges on my boots and my performance is alright w/ my R6 enchanted guns.
  
  Video of said performance:
  
  

  [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NnIi8B9SGAE]