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M wrote on 2014-06-12 16:08
Has anyone considered the alternative to eating? That Soylent stuff, the one that isn't made out of people. I was curious if anyone had tried it out or knew anyone who had lol My friend is going to order some after doing a bunch of research on it. How bad could it be eh?
[Image: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/soylent3-blender-640x426.jpg]
[Image: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/soylent2-blender-640x426.jpg]
^How could that not be delicious.
Reference:
www.soylent.me
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Lan wrote on 2014-06-12 16:13
I love cooking and baking, this is an affront to all I stand for. Anyway I think you need solid food every so often for regular functioning of the stomach but I'd have to read a journal to be sure.
PS.
Can someone live on a liquid diet for life?
Can someone live on a liquid diet for life, if they get enough calories, nutrients and protein from meal replacement shakes, orange juice and vegetable juice?
Generally speaking, it is not recommended to live on liquids alone. Basically, this is because liquid, because it contains water, is not as dense with calories and solid food. As a result, it is often difficult to get enough calories, or the right profile of vitamins and micronutrients, from liquids. In severe cases, such as people who consume large volumes of carbonated beverages with little food, this may result in malnutrition or a vitamin deficiency. That being said, there are some people who suffer from a medical condition which requires them to get their nutrition from a liquid source. For example, incapacitated persons who need to be fed through a tube will get their nutrition this way. Also some intestinal or digestive conditions may require liquid nutrition. A medical liquid diet is something that requires close supervision by a doctor and is usually managed by a trained nutritionist, to make sure the balance of calories, protein, fats, and micronutrients and vitamins is adequate. If this is an issue that you are facing, then you should make sure to talk closely with the team of doctors (such as a gastroenterologist) and nutritionists who are helping to manage your care. They will be able to answer all of your questions!
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M wrote on 2014-06-12 16:16
@Lan
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The contents of this mixture actually have a lot of calories, as well as other things. It seems like it should be enough to sustain the body, it's meant to be injested throughout the day (3+ meals a day). You also have less bowel movements, generally half as often as you would on a solid food diet (so this stuff Does stay in your system and isn't immediately evacuated)
So far I've only read these two journals regarding it, though detailed, they are only 2 in many many cases. I also haven't really looked into the actual websites forums much, having only done half a days research lol
Journal links:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/ars-does-soylent-day-1-embrace-the-chalky-weird-sweetness/
http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/08/20/soylent/
I'm not very good with diets or nutrition, or cooking for that matter. I'm currently living on a pretty basic no-eating-out diet with some focuses on low carb/sodium and high-ish protein, balanced carb, and some other things. That's about the extent of my personal dietary knowledge lol
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Lan wrote on 2014-06-12 16:23
I'm more looking for the long term effects of a liquid diet and not things solely dedicated to this product.
Anyway if you're low on time then I suppose having Soylent every so often wouldn't be detrimental as long as you supplement it with solid food every so often. Though I think on Gawker I read that the creator included something that's supposed to help so you don't actually need solid food though don't quote me on that.
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Splatulated wrote on 2014-06-12 16:25
that looks gross
it probaly taste gross
i need my solid foods :'(
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M wrote on 2014-06-12 16:28
Quote from Lan;1225408:
Though I think on Gawker I read that the creator included something that's supposed to help so you don't actually need solid food though don't quote me on that.
I've heard this too, but I haven't found any direct quotes. Just people mentioning it in their blog/post/journals. I'll have to look more into this unless anyone else knows anything.
I haven't been able to find much on long-term effects, mainly because its a relatively new product (outside of countless trials, which were all only a few months long I believe).
Quote from Splatulated;1225411:
that looks gross
it probaly taste gross
i need my solid foods :'(
The normal color is actually a smooth tan-oatmeal color. The two pictures I posted are food-colored versions that I chose to post in order to make people feel uneasy about it 8D
I've read it tastes like oatmeal-water, though some people say it tastes like vanilla. Granted you can alter the taste with various additives.
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Hanna wrote on 2014-06-12 17:39
I love liquid diets, but I really like solid food
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2014-06-12 17:47
pepto bismol diet?
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Yoorah wrote on 2014-06-12 18:31
I've read about it. I'd try it out, but sadly, they don't ship to Canada yet.
I don't know about the solid food aspect, but otherwise the nutrition you get from it pretty darn good compared to how the vast majority of people eat. It is by far the easiest way to greatly improve your nutrition intake. They also have an open source community of sorts, which experiments with the formula to optimize it constantly.
The main disadvantage of this system is that it makes you fart a LOT for the first week or so. >_>
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M wrote on 2014-06-12 18:46
Quote from Yoorah;1225430:
I've read about it. I'd try it out, but sadly, they don't ship to Canada yet.
I don't know about the solid food aspect, but otherwise the nutrition you get from it pretty darn good compared to how the vast majority of people eat. It is by far the easiest way to greatly improve your nutrition intake. They also have an open source community of sorts, which experiments with the formula to optimize it constantly.
The main disadvantage of this system is that it makes you fart a LOT for the first week or so. >_>
the farting and such is mainly from the fiber im pretty sure. If you are starting a soylent diet from a fast food or microwave diet, expect it. I recently phased in a lot of fiber (compared to my prior diet) into my diet already for example, so i doubt it would be As bad since ive already been through the trial phase of fiber intake lol
I do like that they are very open about their ingredients and open to suggestion/modification.
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Elleanior wrote on 2014-06-12 18:59
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I'd rather not, thanks.
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Osayidan wrote on 2014-06-12 19:39
It sounds interesting and efficient but it's not something I would do until lots of people have done it before me for very long periods of time and are still alive and didn't get weird diseases or cancers linked to it.
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Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2014-06-12 19:42
Ewno. That looks nasty and I couldn't stand not eating solid food. Liquid is for drinking, food is for eating. Eating liquid fucks up the cosmic order.
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M wrote on 2014-06-12 22:44
Quote from Osayidan;1225455:
It sounds interesting and efficient but it's not something I would do until lots of people have done it before me for very long periods of time and are still alive and didn't get weird diseases or cancers linked to it.
This is how I personally am feeling about it. Since there aren't a lot of longterm studies on it, it's hard to say what effects may come as a result. Then again, they are pretty open about what they are putting into it and if none of the chemicals they are putting into it are cancer-causing disease-inducing products, I'd be surprised if anyone got anything deathly from it.
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Lan wrote on 2014-06-12 22:55
Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1225516:
This is how I personally am feeling about it. Since there aren't a lot of longterm studies on it, it's hard to say what effects may come as a result. Then again, they are pretty open about what they are putting into it and if none of the chemicals they are putting into it are cancer-causing disease-inducing products, I'd be surprised if anyone got anything deathly from it.
I think it's less about the things in it and more about what you'll be missing from solid foods that you can't get with liquid food, also that we don't know the long term effects of a liquid only diet.
What I mean by missing things from solid food is that certain things work together to increase the effect of something. I can't recall the name at the moment but it's like a compound has a certain level activity when by itself but when paired with something else it's level of activity will increase tremendously.