What happens when you have 1hp

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Arty wrote on 2010-08-27 21:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxhzF4uqA4

1hp build ftw? Meh...
pinkkea wrote on 2010-08-27 21:33

I don't get it...Wasn't the victim (the guy who died and who was recording) just...standing around afk?
Phanterz wrote on 2010-08-27 21:35

1WM to deadly? Nty
Arty wrote on 2010-08-27 22:24

I don't get it...Wasn't the victim (the guy who died and who was recording) just...standing around afk?

I recorded myself being attacked. o.o

1WM to deadly? Nty

I have 1HP, so my WM only takes off 1/10 of a HP. I have to use windmill 10 times quickly in order to lose 1 HP, and even then, I would have probably naturally recovered by that time.

My point is, even though its 1HP, it doesn't calculate all hits as 1hp. For example, the attacks only did 1/4 HP to me, not 1hp, even though it shows as 1hp. This shows that HP is also measured in values less than one.
Arsik wrote on 2010-08-27 22:35

Quote from Arty;138746:
I recorded myself being attacked. o.o

I have 1HP, so my WM only takes off 1/10 of a HP. I have to use windmill 10 times quickly in order to lose 1 HP, and even then, I would have probably naturally recovered by that time.

My point is, even though its 1HP, it doesn't calculate all hits as 1hp. For example, the attacks only did 1/4 HP to me, not 1hp, even though it shows as 1hp. This shows that HP is also measured in values less than one.

Windmill takes at least 2HP off when you WM. After 20HP, it takes 1/10 of your HP, rounded up. Meaning with 1HP, when you WM, you're putting yourself at -1HP, which is the least amount of HP that you personally can have. And even then, unless your only using Defense with a Shield in dungeons/SMs, you're going to go into deadly instantly, only for you to use an HP10 pot to get back to full health, the whole point of a Low HP build. A better demonstration would be you fighting monsters and getting yourself hit on purpose to show that as long as you don't get multiaggroed, you'll practically be invincible.

But I guess this is good proof that you can deal less than 1 damage, though would have liked to see this done from a weak monster like a Mimic, since that's 100% damage instead of a low damage duel.
Arty wrote on 2010-08-28 01:21

Windmill takes at least 2HP off when you WM. After 20HP, it takes 1/10 of your HP, rounded up. Meaning with 1HP, when you WM, you're putting yourself at -1HP, which is the least amount of HP that you personally can have. And even then, unless your only using Defense with a Shield in dungeons/SMs, you're going to go into deadly instantly, only for you to use an HP10 pot to get back to full health, the whole point of a Low HP build.

I know that's what the wiki says, but I have used windmill before. Remained at "visibly/virtually" full HP, though in theory it is only 0.9hp. I can upload a video to show you guys later.

Edit: Okay nevermind. It stopped magically not taking off any HP when I use windmill. Now I go from 1hp to 0hp instead of -1hp.

However, having 1hp is glitched. I remained at 8 wound / 1 max hp for a while, bandaids / potions couldn't help. I had to sit and wait for that 8 wound to recover before I could fight.
EienNoTsubasa wrote on 2010-08-28 02:27

Hm....interesting find :)

Thing about the wm though. When max hp is less than 10, wm takes off 2 hp
Arty wrote on 2010-08-28 07:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7q_XmK9mK4

Here's me WMing and not losing any HP.
Cryosite wrote on 2010-08-28 13:17

Negative HP builds do indeed do some glitchy things with your health. What I find weird is if you put on enough enchanted gear to reduce your max hp to below 1, you get those wounds. However if you sit/wound pot you can heal them (I've also noticed bandaids do about 1/10th of an hp each, so will take about a hundred or more to fix you). If you take the offending gear off, and put it back on... you don't get the wounds. It somehow remembers you healed the wounds caused by that particular set of equipment or something til you log off/cc.
Phanterz wrote on 2010-08-28 13:19

Quote from EienNoTsubasa;138935:
Hm....interesting find :)

Thing about the wm though. When max hp is less than 10, wm takes off 2 hp

I think it's less than 20. Also, I think the player seemed to hit less than 1 damage due to natural HP recovery rate.
Kaeporo wrote on 2010-08-28 14:18

Unfortunately low HP builds detract from possible offensive power. I fail to see the usefulness in most situations.

Archer: Archers need critical. They absolutely need it. Dexterity takes over once 90/130 critical is obtained.
Knight: Knights love strength but they don't need it. They have enough flexibility to focus on defense/protection, low hp, pure offense or a mix of these sets.
Wizard: Wizards tend to pump enchants into MP or defense/protection which (coupled with mana shield) easily bests the low hp build.
Alchemist: Alchemy enchant sets are unique in that anything is possible. A couple damage enchants, critical boosts, low hp, stat boosts or anything really.
Justified wrote on 2010-08-28 15:51

Quote from Kaeporo;139200:
Unfortunately low HP builds detract from possible offensive power. I fail to see the usefulness in most situations.

Archer: Archers need critical. They absolutely need it. Dexterity takes over once 90/130 critical is obtained.
Knight: Knights love strength but they don't need it. They have enough flexibility to focus on defense/protection, low hp, pure offense or a mix of these sets.

The two universal -HP enchants (Fearless and Thief) serve both the purpose of Crit, and Low-HP. I don't see how that detracts from offensive power for an Archer. Likewise for 'Knights', about 4 of the 6 best 2H weapon enchants (in terms of damage) also subtract large amounts of HP. Again, not detracting from offensive power. Although you could argue that dual-wield outclasses as far as offense goes but...