Should i Stop WindMill at rank 5?

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Lymi wrote on 2014-06-30 01:46

Should I? i have no idea if i should waste time and effort maxing it instead of focusing on other skills to raise my strength if it helps i plan on going on to fighter afterwards and eventually gunner(?) my total is 103 if that helps xD And if you guys suggest i Continue leveling Windmill it would be very much appreciated if you could provide me with leveling tips on rank 5 to 1 and where to go afterwards... Thanks for your Time and answers!!
k1nsoo wrote on 2014-06-30 01:51

It really depends. I know ranking up WM in early levels isextremely painful (I didn't rank up Windmill till total level 1k). Better question would be, "Do I need Windmill to kill mobs?" or "Do I rely on Windmill a lot"; if yes, then you should probably continue ranking Windmill. If not, you can focus on other talents first and come back to windmill later on.

Can't really give tips for your windmill training, because the skill itself is based on "how strong the mobs are", so you probably need to adjust mob strength using shadow missions (ex: Shadow Cast City Advance Mode for 'awful')
ironwoman wrote on 2014-06-30 01:55

Quote from Lymi;1229008:
Should I? i have no idea if i should waste time and effort maxing it instead of focusing on other skills to raise my strength if it helps i plan on going on to fighter afterwards and eventually gunner(?) my total is 103 if that helps xD And if you guys suggest i Continue leveling Windmill it would be very much appreciated if you could provide me with leveling tips on rank 5 to 1 and where to go afterwards... Thanks for your Time and answers!!

If you are planning to raise str at the moment, then I'd say stopping ranking WM is possibly one of the stupidest thing you could do. No matter what other dumb people say, WM is and always will be the core skill for melee-oriented players. If you think WM is hard to rank now... I don't know what to tell you, it used to be harder back in the days, and I still found WM to be easy to train.

Just get rank 1 WM, don't ask questions. Oh, and also, don't start gunner until you have completed both melee and mage.
Jake wrote on 2014-06-30 02:01

When I was first starting out I didn't really think windmill was all that great (as a ranged player), and now even while equipped with a bow I use windmill almost all the time outside of NPC. It really is a great skill, and I'd advise you to continue ranking it simply for the radius gain.
imagine95 wrote on 2014-06-30 02:14

Windmill is definitely easier to train now. Best 2 places to train it is SCC and Their Method.
Personally I find Ice Spear harder to train than wm lol. Maybe it's just me.
Lymi wrote on 2014-06-30 02:22

Thanks for the Quick Replies guys :D and thanks for the info im going to keep ranking it till i get r1 :O but after that should i go for smash or blacksmithing? sorry for all the questions x=x i want to start out on the right foot xD
Jake wrote on 2014-06-30 02:28

Quote from Lymi;1229017:
Thanks for the Quick Replies guys :D and thanks for the info im going to keep ranking it till i get r1 :O but after that should i go for smash or blacksmithing? sorry for all the questions x=x i want to start out on the right foot xD

If you really want you could grind out the blacksmithing part time job to rank 9 blacksmithing, but after that it's something that's extremely difficult to tackle without a decent amount of wealth. Still, smash is the way to go out of those two options
December wrote on 2014-07-01 06:45

Windmill is absolutely core for melee players. It gives both STR and Willl, and lots of it. Definitely rank it.

Blacksmith is hard to rank beyond rank 9 and even then, is still a chore to do Part-time jobs. Alternatively, I would suggest ranking Refine (this is one of those skills you're encouraged to complete early) for Balance and Mining - which also provides STR.

Smash and Assault slash are bread and butter, would recommend you rank both.
Kouki wrote on 2014-07-02 06:09

Quote from ironwoman;1229012:
If you are planning to raise str at the moment, then I'd say stopping ranking WM is possibly one of the stupidest thing you could do. No matter what other dumb people say, WM is and always will be the core skill for melee-oriented players. If you think WM is hard to rank now... I don't know what to tell you, it used to be harder back in the days, and I still found WM to be easy to train.

Just get rank 1 WM, don't ask questions. Oh, and also, don't start gunner until you have completed both melee and mage.

Yeah, all of this is so true. If windmill ever becomes rankable, you should definitely press that rank up button, or regret it. >.<

No matter what skill set you decide to use, you will need windmill to save your life from multi-aggro(except maybe puppet? I don't know I don't use puppets). IF you are a mage or alchemist, you will want windmill to knock away enemies when counter is on cooldown or you're targeted by multiple enemies. If you're an archer, you'll want to use windmill when enemies get too close and you have no time to aim.

If you do fighter, then it's also very important. r1 having the most range, the knuckle penalty won't be so bad, and it gives str and will, which boosts knuckle damage.

Gunner is also not such a friendly skill set for beginners because it gets damage from int and str evenly(and I think uses MP each shot?), so it's better to have gotten other skill sets that raise str, int, and mana first, if you want to bring out the gunner's potential.

I know it can be frustrating to train it, especially at r2. I remember when I reached close to the end of r2-r1, I was nearly on the verge of quitting because of how time-consuming it was, and because I wanted to be able to rank other things, but couldn't because it would raise my CP and force me to train on harder things. I think was around total 69 when I finished it all(when I finished G12).

It's definitely worth it in the end. That is, if you haven't given up playing the game from frustration... >.>
If you manage to make it, you won't regret it, though.
ironwoman wrote on 2014-07-02 06:14

Quote from Fran;1229534:
If you do fighter, then it's also very important. r1 having the most range, the knuckle penalty won't be so bad, and it gives str and will, which boosts knuckle damage.

Str has no impact on fighter. Windmill is still a critical skill for fighter as one of the biggest will providing skills.
Kouki wrote on 2014-07-02 06:29

Quote from ironwoman;1229536:
Str has no impact on fighter. Windmill is still a critical skill for fighter as one of the biggest will providing skills.

Oh, so just the will. XD

After windmill, I would recommend the basic melee stuff like counter, defense, assault slash, smash, and combat mastery. Personally I find myself using Windmill, Assault Slash, and Counter the most out of all, and not really Smash that much, but if you use it, then you should rank it after WM.
Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-07-02 07:51

Quote from Fran;1229534:
No matter what skill set you decide to use, you will need windmill to save your life from multi-aggro(except maybe puppet? I don't know I don't use puppets).

Windmill still helps for puppets because of the str and while other puppet AoEs are in cooldown. Though, most of the time my enemies die without the need of me using windmill.

Gunner is also not such a friendly skill set for beginners because it gets damage from int and str evenly(and I think uses MP each shot?)

Gunner uses both stamina and mana, depending on the skill.

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