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Splatulated wrote on 2014-07-09 08:47
Fans Concerned over alleged cheating in latest US PoKémon Competition
The Pokemon National Championships concluded just last weekend but concerned fans have noticed cheating may have been afoot within the US tournament. The allegations have brought three-time champion Ray Rizzo under fire, who has since responded to the issue saying he passed all random checks for legitimate Pokemon before the tournament begun.
Ray Rizzo – though he did not win the tournament this year – was believed to have allegedly cheated during the tournament by using a tampered Aegislash, which appeared from a Dream Ball. For those who are unaware, Dream Balls were used in Pokemon Black / White and allowed players to transfer their Pokemon online for certain items in the Dream World.
Considering the Dream World was closed earlier this year, along with the knowledge that Aegislash is exclusive to Pokemon X & Y, fans immediately issued their worries to the Pokemon Company. Though a ruling is yet to be found, Ray Rizzo has expressed his opinion to those in a formal statement on Facebook, believing the Aegislash was possibly bred with two hacked parents, though he had no knowledge of this before the tournament. You can head on over to the Twitch stream and see the moment Aegislash popped from the Dream Ball around the 1 hour 37 mark.
“Basically someone who I’m not going to mention because people might troll them over this and I don’t want that to happen, unknowingly bred a presumably hacked dream ball Aegislash and the ball passed down from one of the parents, so the completely legit baby Aegislash ended up having a dream ball too. The person who bred it for me didn’t notice because they thought the parents were perfectly fine. So then they traded the baby Aegislash to me so I could EV train it and use it.
“Let me tell you I don’t know anything about in-game. I have maybe 60 hours of game time and I couldn’t tell you the difference between a dream ball and a dusk ball, so I had absolutely no idea it was in a dream ball. I just take my Pokemon through Nintendo’s hack check online on battle spot and at the competitions and they’re totally fine because they are always bred completely legitly,, so I go ahead and use it. [SIZE="7"]I simply do not play ingame, [/SIZE]there's no way I would have even known it was in a dream ball since it doesn't tell you, and I wouldn't have even known there was anything wrong with it being in a dream ball because it passes hack checks and I don't even know what the hell a dream ball is or how you get dream balls."
Note: on the top of the Picture I place the picture of Aegislash coming out of it's Pokéball
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Source:
- My Nintendo News http://mynintendonews.com/2014/07/08/fans-concerned-over-alleged-cheating-in-latest-us-pokemon-tournament/
- http://pocketmonster.kotaku.com/fans-are-pissed-about-alleged-cheating-in-the-recent-po-1601289614/+patriciahernandez
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Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2014-07-09 10:19
I don't blame him for not playing much of X and Y. Not so much for the others though.
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Taycat wrote on 2014-07-09 12:07
from my understanding, he plays to win, not to have fun
also, how was he supposed to know?
in any case, he wasn't cheating, cheating, he just had a pokemon that was bred from one that wasn't obtained normally is all
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2014-07-09 12:27
People who plays pokemon competitively do not play on the 3DS most of the time.
They practice on Showdown.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/
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Aubog007 wrote on 2014-07-09 14:20
Quote from Taycat;1231181:
from my understanding, he plays to win, not to have fun
also, how was he supposed to know?
in any case, he wasn't cheating, cheating, he just had a pokemon that was bred from one that wasn't obtained normally is all
My understanding, he used one that was obtained from cheating, or rather, not breeding it ingame, just obtaining one made through a program that can bypass cheat checks.
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JasonHero wrote on 2014-07-09 15:27
How would someone even do this? I thought the only way to hack was to transfer hacked pokemon from pokebank. Although i haven't been paying much attention to pokemon lately but i could be wrong. But i know in the past, you would only be able to do this with pokemon from before B/W
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Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2014-07-09 16:17
Is it not possible for someone to have a female Pokemon gotten from Dream World and transferred it to X and Y to breed it with an Aegislash and it pass on the dream ball?
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Ashikoki wrote on 2014-07-09 17:05
I don't see what the big deal is as long as the aegislash's moveset and stats are all legal.
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Syr wrote on 2014-07-09 17:13
Quote from Natural Harmonia Gropius;1231209:
Is it not possible for someone to have a female Pokemon gotten from Dream World and transferred it to X and Y to breed it with an Aegislash and it pass on the dream ball?
Only the mother's pokeball is passed down. And the offspring is always the same species as the mother, so it's impossible to have a member of the Aegislash family (or any pokemon introduced in Gen VI) in a Dream Ball legitimately.
[S]powersaves ftw[/S]
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Natural Harmonia Gropius wrote on 2014-07-09 18:31
Quote from Syr;1231218:
Only the mother's pokeball is passed down. And the offspring is always the same species as the mother, so it's impossible to have a member of the Aegislash family (or any pokemon introduced in Gen VI) in a Dream Ball legitimately.
[S]powersaves ftw[/S]
Whoops, forgot the mom always gave the species. Do the males pass down the ball type?
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Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2014-07-09 20:41
I don't think you should be allowed to be in these tournaments if you don't play the game. They should run a check on your game and if it's not completed up to a certain point you can't participate.
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Ashikoki wrote on 2014-07-09 20:57
Quote from Space Pirate Nithiel;1231249:
I don't think you should be allowed to be in these tournaments if you don't play the game. They should run a check on your game and if it's not completed up to a certain point you can't participate.
He probably has played through the game itself. What he probably means is that he doesn't grind out like other players do.
Time it takes to beat the game: 20 hours
Time it takes to get one 5IV egg group pokemon: anywehere from 10 to 40 hours
Time it takes to get an entire team going: mmo grind tier
As long as you're not breaking the legal checks, there is no real way to determine if the pokemon is a hackmon, so you can't exactly say there are other players that aren't "cheating" as well. I just don't see why this is a big deal, since the competitive scene is more about team formation and strategy in the moment of battle over who grinded the hardest.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2014-07-10 15:31
Wait a minute. The real problem is he was using Aegislash.
/shot.
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Ashikoki wrote on 2014-07-10 16:17
Quote from Aubog007;1231406:
Wait a minute. The real problem is he was using Aegislash.
/shot.
But aegislash gud