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Halfslashed wrote on 2010-09-09 01:42

Quote from Okami;149779:
Do you not see the "Other Deals"? It says Windows 7 right there, and thats were I've gotten mine from..

Yeah, but that's an upgrade. It means you have to have an existing copy of vista. My computer didn't come with the vista disk, so..
Okami wrote on 2010-09-09 02:40

Ah, okay. Well I tried
Halfslashed wrote on 2010-09-09 14:21

Quote from Okami;150027:
Ah, okay. Well I tried

I appreciate that.
Osayidan wrote on 2010-09-22 00:51

I learned about these things a little while ago:
Buy the OCZ RevoDrive PCI-Express 180GB Solid State Drive at TigerDirect.ca

Skips the bottleneck of SATA. 450 MBps (bytes not bits) write, even with a 1 Gbps home network you won't be able to bottleneck on this thing. There was a lower capacity model for under 400$ somewhere but I can't find it. At this point in time SSD is for performance, not capacity, can run OS + apps on this, should be enough space.

There's also an 11000$ one by texas memory systems that has insane performance, used one in a build at work and it's ridiculous.
Halfslashed wrote on 2010-09-22 01:57

Quote from Osayidan;162450:
I learned about these things a little while ago:
Buy the OCZ RevoDrive PCI-Express 180GB Solid State Drive at TigerDirect.ca

Skips the bottleneck of SATA. 450 MBps (bytes not bits) write, even with a 1 Gbps home network you won't be able to bottleneck on this thing. There was a lower capacity model for under 400$ somewhere but I can't find it. At this point in time SSD is for performance, not capacity, can run OS + apps on this, should be enough space.

There's also an 11000$ one by texas memory systems that has insane performance, used one in a build at work and it's ridiculous.

Yeah, I've heard of these raid drives. The downside is that you have to disable the SB's RAID controller for this to work, and you can't use multiples of these.
sakraycore wrote on 2010-09-22 17:10

atm i would suggest:

i5-750
GTX 460
4GB DDR3

and no more than this. it is better to spend more on peripherals (which don't age as fast).

much faster processors and video cards are coming out really soon. HD 6000 series, Nvidia Keplar, Intel Sandybridge, AMD Bulldozer etc.
Halfslashed wrote on 2010-09-30 00:17

Quote from sakraycore;162898:
atm i would suggest:

i5-750
GTX 460
4GB DDR3

and no more than this. it is better to spend more on peripherals (which don't age as fast).

much faster processors and video cards are coming out really soon. HD 6000 series, Nvidia Keplar, Intel Sandybridge, AMD Bulldozer etc.

Even then, this plan is outdated. Right now it's i7-950, 5850, and 6GB DDR3. I know about these, other than Keplar. Personally though, I don't care much for P67, seeing as it won't hurt me that much.

Honestly, i'm fed up with this computer right now, and as soon as I finally have enough, I will buy my computer.
wolfram wrote on 2010-09-30 16:04

would you be happening to be going with dual or tri channel memory controllers on your MB?

With your SSD III RAID 0 setup, i would recommend a tri channel memory controller as to avoid any bottlenecks you may run into.

Just FYI, i have a very similar set up to the one your looking into acquiring. It does run great when everything is up and running.
wolfram wrote on 2010-09-30 16:19

What about 12 GB of RAM(4GBx3) instead of 6 GB(2GBx3)?

With your SATA III RAID 0, it would help avoid any bottle necks from the 1.0+ GB read time you'll experience.
Also with the X58 MB supporting 24 GB total, it would be a much easier upgrade in the future to just slap on another 12 GB of RAM, and just maxing it. Instead of potentially having left over ram sticks when you decided to upgrade.

Just a comment. I run a very similar setup to what your looking into acquiring and it is a very good set up.
I run the same RAID as you shall, even the same SSD's. About the same GPU, CPU, etc etc.
Halfslashed wrote on 2010-10-02 01:39

Quote from wolfram;171606:
What about 12 GB of RAM(4GBx3) instead of 6 GB(2GBx3)?

With your SATA III RAID 0, it would help avoid any bottle necks from the 1.0+ GB read time you'll experience.
Also with the X58 MB supporting 24 GB total, it would be a much easier upgrade in the future to just slap on another 12 GB of RAM, and just maxing it. Instead of potentially having left over ram sticks when you decided to upgrade.

Just a comment. I run a very similar setup to what your looking into acquiring and it is a very good set up.
I run the same RAID as you shall, even the same SSD's. About the same GPU, CPU, etc etc.

Why would I need 12GB? I don't see the use in 12GB of RAM when it comes to gaming. I'll use 12GB when I find that it helps me significantly.

Also, those drives on RAID 0 only average 500mb/s sequential reads. Let's also not forget the fact that TRIM isn't supported with RAID 0'd SSD's, meaning that the performance will start to stutter during reads/writes.
sakraycore wrote on 2010-10-02 21:40

i7-950 is fine but I'd still get GTX 460.

Civilization V GPU & CPU Performance In-depth > 1920x1200 High Performance - TechSpot
Halfslashed wrote on 2010-10-03 01:08

Quote from sakraycore;173555:
i7-950 is fine but I'd still get GTX 460.

Civilization V GPU & CPU Performance In-depth > 1920x1200 High Performance - TechSpot

That's because nvidia's chipsets/drivers are alot better with handling AA in general. Turn down the AA, and a 460 wouldn't win.

I'm just waiting for the 6800 series to come to make the definite decision of which gfx card to use.
wolfram wrote on 2010-10-04 17:06

Quote from Halfslashed;173025:
Why would I need 12GB? I don't see the use in 12GB of RAM when it comes to gaming. I'll use 12GB when I find that it helps me significantly.

Also, those drives on RAID 0 only average 500mb/s sequential reads. Let's also not forget the fact that TRIM isn't supported with RAID 0'd SSD's, meaning that the performance will start to stutter during reads/writes.

I do admit 12 GB is overboard at the moment.

If you use a MB supporting SATA 6.0 RAID 0, or a RAID 6.0 Controller Card, you can get over 700 mb/s read speeds. This is what i did and the results are great.
About the losing TRIM support, I do not worry about performance issues since I back up, reformat my SDD back to original standards, and reimage my Hard Drive back. It takes about 20 mins, and i do it about once every 3 months. Fixes the performance issues.

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