I can't believe they actually want us to pay for TESO

• Chockeh wrote on 2014-07-23 01:36

  Quote from Compass;1233901:

  Ugh Angry Jose
  I bet you watch TotalBiscuit too wtf

  
  
  Hell fucking yes I do.
• Hanna wrote on 2014-07-23 02:28

  Quote from Natural Harmonia Gropius;1233984:

  No one wants to pay for mediocrity, which is all you get with MMOs.

  
  
  Guild Wars 2 is fucking rad
• Ashikoki wrote on 2014-07-23 02:40
  TESO is definitely a cash grab. It's not even developed by bethesda.
  
  Just another copy paste mmo destined to go free to play and then close before its 10 year mark.
  
  

  Quote from Hanna;1234005:

  Guild Wars 2 is fucking rad

  
  
  GW2 fixed a very large number of problems I've had with MMO's for a long time.
  
  And then ruined itself with the worst combat imaginable. Close one ArenaNet. You almost had it.
• Kurayami wrote on 2014-07-23 03:06
  I played in all the beta tests and it wasn't really fun..
  The first scene, when you're escaping prison with everyone else is about the only thing I really liked.
  It hardly even felt like an mmo since there was no point in partying with people.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2014-07-23 03:15

  Quote from Natural Harmonia Gropius;1233984:

  No one wants to pay for mediocrity, which is all you get with MMOs.

  
  
  Every new MMO tries to be the next big mmo
  instead of making a stable mmo where they have a manageable content update schedule
  
  The only MMO that fits the latter is FFXIV: ARR
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2014-07-23 03:58

  Quote from Ashikoki;1234007:

  TESO is definitely a cash grab. It's not even developed by bethesda.
  
  Just another copy paste mmo destined to go free to play and then close before its 10 year mark.
  
  
  
  GW2 fixed a very large number of problems I've had with MMO's for a long time.
  
  And then ruined itself with the worst combat imaginable. Close one ArenaNet. You almost had it.

  
  
  If GW2 has Dragon Nest combat, that game would be god tier.
• Chockeh wrote on 2014-07-23 05:09

  Quote from Ashikoki;1234007:

  
  GW2 fixed a very large number of problems I've had with MMO's for a long time.
  
  And then ruined itself with the worst combat imaginable. Close one ArenaNet. You almost had it.

  
  
  If only the combat felt a little bit more meaty. Every attack I did felt like I was hitting the air.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2014-07-24 02:12

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1234017:

  Every new MMO tries to be the next big mmo
  instead of making a stable mmo where they have a manageable content update schedule
  
  The only MMO that fits the latter is FFXIV: ARR

  
  
  Which likes to shoot itself in the face with bad decision making at times.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2014-07-24 03:09

  Quote from Aubog007;1234462:

  Which likes to shoot itself in the face with bad decision making at times.

  
  
  Their design philosophy is too strict but that's common with MMOs.
  They're still the 2nd fastest updating MMO in the market and the expansion is coming out after version 2.5 (early next year or summer release).
  Majority of MMO players are more concerned with breadth than depth.
  Also, the playerbase actually continue to increase the year after launch. The only other MMOs in the past decade to achieve this are WoW and EVE
• Ashikoki wrote on 2014-07-24 04:21

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;1234029:

  If GW2 has Dragon Nest combat, that game would be god tier.

  
  
  Dragons Nest combat is way too flashy and juggle heavy for me.
  
  I like that more mmo's are heading in the action oriented route, but it feels weird when everyone who isn't a boss or miniboss weighs 12 ounces and is cooldown cycle fodder. Dynasty Warriors enemies are boring and repetitive once the novelty wears off.
  
  Tera combat felt a little better, but locked animations felt so artificial and most enemies were pretty boring too.
  
  I'm hoping to see more complex action mmorpg's in the future, without too much fluff and flash. (not that I'll have time to ever play them anymore)
• Aubog007 wrote on 2014-07-24 05:08

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1234486:

  Their design philosophy is too strict but that's common with MMOs.
  They're still the 2nd fastest updating MMO in the market and the expansion is coming out after version 2.5 (early next year or summer release).
  Majority of MMO players are more concerned with breadth than depth.
  Also, the playerbase actually continue to increase the year after launch. The only other MMOs in the past decade to achieve this are WoW and EVE

  
  
  I'm not complaining by any means, as i know the reasons behind most of their practices, however the sightseeing log was rage inducing.
  And that's my 2 cents on them.
  
  EVE just feeds on player desire to destroy each other on a grandiose scale.
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2014-07-24 05:10

  Quote from Ashikoki;1234498:

  Dragons Nest combat is way too flashy and juggle heavy for me.
  
  I like that more mmo's are heading in the action oriented route, but it feels weird when everyone who isn't a boss or miniboss weighs 12 ounces and is cooldown cycle fodder. Dynasty Warriors enemies are boring and repetitive once the novelty wears off.
  
  Tera combat felt a little better, but locked animations felt so artificial and most enemies were pretty boring too.
  
  I'm hoping to see more complex action mmorpg's in the future, without too much fluff and flash. (not that I'll have time to ever play them anymore)

  
  
  But I LOVE flashy, I mean if it isn't flashy that's like saying it is less impressive. What's the fun in moves that doesn't look good? Juggle also takes skill, so you get a sense of accomplishment when you manage to juggle a whole bunch for a long time. I feel it is a rewarding experience. Dragon Nest and DFO basically put brawler game play in MMO and I just don't see any downside to that.
• Trevor wrote on 2014-07-24 05:15
  I hope black desert turns out good:
  
  [video=youtube;gqlLe4Nhn-U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlLe4Nhn-U[/video]
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2014-07-24 05:50
  It would be awkward if Black desert comes out before Blade and Soul :P
  
  Speaking of B&S I think Ashikoki might like its combat, it is less flashy but more combo oriented than Tera. Especially Kung Fu Master. I still like DN's combat more though.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2014-07-24 16:30

  Quote from Aubog007;1234510:

  
  
  EVE just feeds on player desire to destroy each other on a grandiose scale.

  
  
  EVE is successful because it's one of a kind.
  It's technically a good design but CCP absolutely has no idea why people like EVE online.
  Video used EVE as an example of a good MMO.
  [video=youtube;nvK8fua6O64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64[/video]
  
  example of CCP's incompetence
  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf
  Basically why no one likes making video games.