Sakura Abyss~!

• Kenero wrote on 2014-08-01 14:41
  [Image: http://puu.sh/azQjn/eaaaa9bb64.jpg]

  
  <Thanks to Tiara Amaretto for the image>
  32k critical damage for one hit. If all 5 were crits, damage would exceed 100k area.
  
  Lullaby can remedy the charge up time. Combos like use crisis to pull everything together, lullaby, then whole team does Sakura Abyss can decimate even npc final bosses in a few seconds.
  
  Of course with protection, it's possible for that damage to be reduced to 16k (50% reduction) but 16,000 * 5 = 80,000 damage if all 5 hits crit.
  
  If you take a whole team who has rank 1 sakura abyss to fire at the same time, it would be dangerous.
  
  5 minute cd seems long but it's a respectable cooldown for a powerful skill for its damage unlike meteor.
  
  Other news, the damage range the person had was 678-991 with trans and bonetooth and level 6 R Anju. However overture, reforges, etc. were not used.
  
  The downside is the long charging, but lullaby can cure it. And unlike Blaze, all 8 people can use lullaby sakura abyss and do cumulative stacking damage that can exceed over 300k damage as a team followed up with skills or shadow bind to aid in damage. Making Sakura Abyss top tier in terms of single burst team damage granted all members can hit that high.
  
  Now imagine if this skill had a 1 minute cooldown.
  
  250% is a base where each second of charging increases the damage, up to a possible 1000% for EACH hit. It's a 5 hit skill.
• Osu wrote on 2014-08-01 15:11
  Rank 1 is actually 3750% (250%x15) split into five hits.
  But I'm gonna have to say.. or wait, by bonetooth do you mean the bone dragon chip? That would explain a few things to me rofl. I'm 1700 strong in the skillset and using starblade with a 20% or so overture(about 810 max) my crits were 15k.
  I could understand, I suppose, if the 20% damage and 42% critical were applied though.. emphasis on I suppose.
  For the hell of it:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/aAhfZ/c0d4026956.jpg]

  
  EDIT: Also are you implying 991 max before those boosts you mentioned? Because that math actually does not add up.
• Rukuna wrote on 2014-08-01 15:31
  I understood some of those words.
  
  :smoke2:
• Kenero wrote on 2014-08-01 15:49

  Quote from Osu;1236454:

  Rank 1 is actually 3750% (250%x15) split into five hits.
  But I'm gonna have to say.. or wait, by bonetooth do you mean the bone dragon chip? That would explain a few things to me rofl. I'm 1700 strong in the skillset and using starblade with a 20% or so overture(about 810 max) my crits were 15k.
  I could understand, I suppose, if the 20% damage and 42% critical were applied though.. emphasis on I suppose.
  For the hell of it:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/aAhfZ/c0d4026956.jpg]

  
  EDIT: Also are you implying 991 max before those boosts you mentioned? Because that math actually does not add up.

  
  
  I wonder if there's an additional multiplier bonus for having a full charge like ice spear or firebolt?
• Osu wrote on 2014-08-01 15:58

  Quote from Kenero;1236460:

  I wonder if there's an additional multiplier bonus for having a full charge like ice spear or firebolt?

  
  But mine was full charge? o3o
  I did the math also on mine~ 810x37.5 = 30375,
  that x2.5 = 75937.5,
  and that /5 = 15187.5 (although that honestly does make my 15450 a little off, but I never thought this stuff was perfect haha) [it's also possible that hit was an excellent performance instead of normal though too]
  I just think there's some bit of information missing for them achieving that damage. o3o
• Osayidan wrote on 2014-08-01 17:06
  People say meteor cooldown shouldn't decrease but then everyone's happy when the original cooldown for this got lowered. I'll just go be depressed in my mage corner :gloom3:
• Osu wrote on 2014-08-01 17:20

  Quote from Osayidan;1236478:

  People say meteor cooldown shouldn't decrease but then everyone's happy when the original cooldown for this got lowered. I'll just go be depressed in my mage corner :gloom3:

  
  *pat pat* x3 I think it's totally reasonable to lower the cooldown of meteor now that this skill exists myself. xD I mastered meteor on my altmain awhile back, and now flash forward to this hitting r1 on my main and I was like "..wow it hits even higher." owo So yeah, meteor definitely needs a cooldown reduction now.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-08-01 18:38
  I still have negative thoughts on Sakura Abyss. It doesn't have damage reforges, too reliant on lullaby, and most importantly, it has limited uses. Since when do people use Meteor Strike or any long-casting skills on dungeon/MA tourney/lord missions? I think the damage is nice but its just too impractical to use for my current Mabi playstyle.
  
  

  Quote from Kenero;1236453:

  And unlike Blaze, all 8 people can use lullaby sakura abyss and do cumulative stacking damage that can exceed over 300k damage as a team followed up with skills or shadow bind to aid in damage.

  
  
  Actually, you can do cumulative stacking damage with blaze as well
  
  [video=youtubeold;1WXD7KromjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WXD7KromjE[/video]
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-08-01 19:25

  Quote from Kenero;1236453:

  [Image: http://puu.sh/azQjn/eaaaa9bb64.jpg]

  [SPOILER=" "]
  <Thanks to Tiara Amaretto for the image>
  32k critical damage for one hit. If all 5 were crits, damage would exceed 100k area.
  
  Lullaby can remedy the charge up time. Combos like use crisis to pull everything together, lullaby, then whole team does Sakura Abyss can decimate even npc final bosses in a few seconds.
  
  Of course with protection, it's possible for that damage to be reduced to 16k (50% reduction) but 16,000 * 5 = 80,000 damage if all 5 hits crit.
  
  If you take a whole team who has rank 1 sakura abyss to fire at the same time, it would be dangerous.
  
  5 minute cd seems long but it's a respectable cooldown for a powerful skill for its damage unlike meteor.
  
  Other news, the damage range the person had was 678-991 with trans and bonetooth and level 6 R Anju. However overture, reforges, etc. were not used.
  
  The downside is the long charging, but lullaby can cure it. And unlike Blaze, all 8 people can use lullaby sakura abyss and do cumulative stacking damage that can exceed over 300k damage as a team followed up with skills or shadow bind to aid in damage. Making Sakura Abyss top tier in terms of single burst team damage granted all members can hit that high.
  
  Now imagine if this skill had a 1 minute cooldown.
  
  250% is a base where each second of charging increases the damage, up to a possible 1000% for EACH hit. It's a 5 hit skill.[/SPOILER]

  
  
  It's hilarious that each visual damage counter for Sakura Abyss (of which there are five) will easily exceed the expected damage output of Meteor Strike.
  
  That skill is so terrible. It badly needs some kind of cooldown reduction and a massive damage bonus.
• Kapra wrote on 2014-08-01 21:00
  Personally, I can understand lowering this skill from its original cooldown of 20 minutes, but 5 minutes is way too low. The cooldown needs to be longer.
• Daakun wrote on 2014-08-01 22:30
  Honestly, it's fine how it is. If anything needs a nerf it's lullaby.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-02 04:30
  So the hits have individual crit chance?
  
  Is the chance per attack or per attack and per monster hit?
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-02 04:30
  So the hits have individual crit chance?
  
  Is the chance per attack or per attack and per monster hit?
• Osu wrote on 2014-08-02 04:48

  Quote from Rydian;1236627:

  So the hits have individual crit chance?
  
  Is the chance per attack or per attack and per monster hit?

  
  Per attack, and just to mention the separate crits all count for training so it's awesome to gets lots 8D
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-08-02 05:55

  Quote from Rydian;1236626:

  So the hits have individual crit chance?
  
  Is the chance per attack or per attack and per monster hit?

  
  
  All 5 hits are separate, same with Kunai's Storms 3 hits. Also, Durability/Proficiency gets affected per hit.