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Osu wrote on 2014-08-08 13:09
In what world are combo cards not counted as a buff? It's a flat +percentage. I really think people oughta take that into consideration~
In my case, after capping ninja though not going for warrior talent or anything.. my 8 pierce, R5, ice 4 lance can crit for about 12k in hard level stuff on smash, without overture or anything else applied, just a straight smash with all my stuff on. :U (Which I really think is what the true description of this question implies)
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Kenero wrote on 2014-08-08 13:09
[video=youtube;EH6sSuQmKDI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6sSuQmKDI[/video]
You wish your range was this good.
And if you say this video doesn't count, it's a joke.
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drezzt wrote on 2014-08-08 13:17
Daaaaaasng I'm seeing some ridiculous numbers here.
I can get maybe a 7k drop kick unbuffed (since I have crappy knucks) and maybe a 8k crit smash unbuffed with my max 140 ego hlc with ice 6. Both are assuming Hm mission. Sadly, I don't like lances ;-; so that monster prot will forever haunt me
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k1nsoo wrote on 2014-08-08 13:17
2.7k per hit
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Osu wrote on 2014-08-08 13:18
Quote from Kenero;1238343:
[spoiler="Video"][video=youtube;EH6sSuQmKDI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6sSuQmKDI[/video][/spoiler]
You wish your range was this good.
Reminds me of how effective range was compared to melee in the original Fable~ rofl. nwn
Quote from drezzt;1238344:
Sadly, I don't like lances ;-; so that monster prot will forever haunt me
I personally think there's enough strength now to make two-handers viable again, by a wider margin. xD I'm considering upgrading one to use seriously myself ~w~ I'm pretty tired of my lance. :P
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Kilayox wrote on 2014-08-08 14:14
8k crit smash | no crit like 1k~3k
6k crit dropkick | no crit like 1k~2k
2k crit windmill | no crit like 700
ew my damage sucks
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-08-08 15:11
I'll assume that you're referring to exhaustible bonuses like Bone Dragon Chips and Catering bonuses.
I can hit pretty high with everything but i've never broken 100k.
Archery:
Arrow Revolver: 20k
Magnum Shot: 30k
Crash Shot: 12k, 85k
Melee:
Windmill: 10k
Smash: 25k, 50k
Magic:
Fireball: 25k
Ice Spear: 22k
Hail Storm 35k
Blaze: 60k
Meteor Strike: 90k
Alchemy:
Flame Burst: 7k
Wave Buster: 20k
Martial Arts:
Drop Kick: 30k
Puppetry:
Climactic Crash: 20k x2
Gunslinger:
Flash Launcher: 25k
Ninja:
Charging Shuriken: 25k
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Osu wrote on 2014-08-08 16:26
Quote from Kaeporo;1238358:
An impressive snip~
If we're implying with overture, but lacking combo cards~ I'm more like a 20k smash and 8~9k in windmill. o3o 16k I think was my highest with rasenzan, 17k drop kick.. and I guess for the hell of mentioning xD 15k on a single line of sakura~
Again though, only if overture counts. And smash can be bumped up to about 37k if support shot(from myself) also counts. o3o I have no puppet numbers to really talk of so far.. 10k climactic with beginner bars because I'm not upgrading bars until I can equip my demonics. XD
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-08 16:50
Quote from Kaeporo;1238358:
I'll assume that you're referring to exhaustible bonuses like Bone Dragon Chips and Catering bonuses.
I can hit pretty high with everything but i've never broken 100k.
Archery:
Arrow Revolver: 20k
Magnum Shot: 30k
Crash Shot: 12k, 85k
Melee:
Windmill: 10k
Smash: 25k, 50k
Magic:
Fireball: 25k
Ice Spear: 22k
Hail Storm 35k
Blaze: 60k
Meteor Strike: 90k
Alchemy:
Flame Burst: 7k
Wave Buster: 20k
Martial Arts:
Drop Kick: 30k
Puppetry:
Climactic Crash: 20k x2
Gunslinger:
Flash Launcher: 25k
Ninja:
Charging Shuriken: 25k
Combo cards help!
I'm secretly hoping for the crash shot and/or magnum shot gold combo cards to drop.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-08-08 16:53
Quote from ironwoman;1238382:
Combo cards help!
I'm secretly hoping for the crash shot and/or magnum shot gold combo cards to drop.
I'm referencing my Arrow Revolver combo card as it adds around 30% damage to the skill on average.
I would totally make a new card if Nexon added permanent combo cards to the shop.
...Not to make great skills broken but to make good skills viable.
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-08 17:13
Quote from Kaeporo;1238384:
I'm referencing my Arrow Revolver combo card as it adds around 30% damage to the skill on average.
I would totally make a new card if Nexon added permanent combo cards to the shop.
...Not to make great skills broken but to make good skills viable.
I mean, considering the CD of the skills, I'd think magnum shot combo card would be a more logical choice.
While AR can do pretty funny damage with combo cards, magnum's CD makes it benefit it more from the buff in my opinion. AR's cooldown seems/feels way too long after 5th shot for me.
Given that you get every buff possible and get a bhafel combo, I'd say you can easily pass 100k. Or just support smash and go over that damage like I did.
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Jake wrote on 2014-08-08 17:21
Well I've never actually tried without buffs before, so I'll give it a go.
No buffs except for mana shield (mana shield to activate butterfly enchant).
Without combo card:
[Image: http://puu.sh/aK4DN/7c9bab1ccc.jpg]
With combo card:
[Image: http://puu.sh/aK4Q9/7df1865192.jpg]
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-08-08 17:43
Shuriken Charge: 8.5k fully charge critical, with the Spiral Shit Shuriken. Akatsuki would probably give me more but I'm too lazy to use it.
Sakura Shower: 5k * 5 crit at twelve charges at r4, with Spiral Shit Shuriken.
Smash: 7k crit with Sieged Penetrating Knight Lance, not yet SU'd.
Magnum Shot: 5k crit with Fomor Highlander Long Bow.
Focused Fist: 8.5k crit with r2 Demonic Solitude Knuckles.
Drop Kick: 10k crit.
Climactic Crash: 8k * 3 crit with Carved Colossus Jeweled Control Bar.
Flash Launcher: 10k crit with Black Star.
Didn't use Overture, combo cards, etc.
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-08 17:50
Quote from Jake;1238396:
Well I've never actually tried without buffs before, so I'll give it a go.
No buffs except for mana shield (mana shield to activate butterfly enchant).
Without combo card:
[Image: http://puu.sh/aK4DN/7c9bab1ccc.jpg]
With combo card:
[Image: http://puu.sh/aK4Q9/7df1865192.jpg]
If I did my calculations correct... the maximum damage with magnum with trans, 45% overture (just an assumption), bone chip, would net you 115k damage. Does that sound about right?
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Jake wrote on 2014-08-08 17:51
Quote from ironwoman;1238407:
If I did my calculations correct... the maximum damage with magnum with trans, 45% overture (just an assumption), bone chip, would net you 115k damage. Does that sound about right?
I did 145k on a barrier spike and 3x% overture and the rest of those buffs (in talent trans is enough to reach 1500 dex, so no catering needed)
a note: I have sword of order max damage level 10 (so +40 max) on one of my bow lines. Also my accessories each have level 3 mag shot damage