I'm pretty upset

• Taycat wrote on 2014-08-25 16:23

  Quote from Splatulated;1242781:

  then use a shorter leash or get one of the dog harnesses instead so you have it attached to their back and not their neck ?
  
  

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  splat, it's cruel to put a dog on a short leash
  they can't walk around enough and get exercise
• Kyishi wrote on 2014-08-25 17:29
  is it really that difficult to fix ur leash's radius? FFS....
• Campylobacter jejuni wrote on 2014-08-25 17:33
  A short leash (I don't think Splat was talkinga bout THAT short anyway, but rather about "just short enough to keep them from jumping over the fence") is certianly less cruel than parting with their family.
  
  And to give them the movement they need you would normally go for a walk with them. I don't know what the point is in keeping family dogs outside and thus away from the family anyway, come to think of it.
• Taycat wrote on 2014-08-26 01:34

  Quote from Campylobacter jejuni;1242821:

  A short leash (I don't think Splat was talkinga bout THAT short anyway, but rather about "just short enough to keep them from jumping over the fence") is certianly less cruel than parting with their family.
  
  And to give them the movement they need you would normally go for a walk with them. I don't know what the point is in keeping family dogs outside and thus away from the family anyway, come to think of it.

  
  
  for protection
  at least, that's why my family had dogs anyway
  and we usually had two dogs, so they'd be okay and not get too lonely, but we'd still spend time aynway
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2014-08-26 09:24
  I hate dogs for most part in general at least big dogs our cat is afraid of outside thankfully she was cuz she could of exscaped when our place was broken into xD
• Odin wrote on 2014-08-26 18:03
  A short leash when being held by a person is not cruel- that's done for the safety of other people/animals as well as reducing how much strain the owner has to deal with from the shock of the dog taking off running and slamming into the end of the leash.
  
  Short leads on a ground anchor or doghouse chain kind of is a problem though- of course said dog area should also be well removed from where other people might get into it.
• Campylobacter jejuni wrote on 2014-08-26 18:40

  Quote from Taycat;1242892:

  for protection

  
  Yeah but doesn't that work better inside? Outside they can be easily dealt with, either shoot them or poison them by throwing something nice over the fence. In the inside the dogs have the element of surprise at the very least when they come running down the stairs or something, and their barking will be more noticable and likely to wake you up. A big sheperd dog's bark from the adjacent corridor is guaranteed to wake you up even in deep sleep, and having the way blocked by a big dog is very unnerving.
  
  I honestly don't think anyone around here ever has their dog live in the garden. It must be a cultural thing. They're always inside or in a kennel.

  Quote from Odin;1242996:

  A short leash when being held by a person is not cruel- that's done for the safety of other people/animals as well as reducing how much strain the owner has to deal with from the shock of the dog taking off running and slamming into the end of the leash.

  
  Or to prevent them from running into a car when they see a rival dog on the other side. One dog, one of the stupid small ones who think they have to bark at every dog, once got crazy when he saw our dog on the other side (who didn't give a shit), and he ran onto the street. If the owner hadn't jerked him back immediately, he'd have been flattened by the car that drove down the exact spot a second later.