Anyone else feel ep4 got nerfed?

• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-05 00:37
  does cp affect gold drop at all? they are boss/strong for me atm. They use to be awful/boss a few days ago.
  
  also, the first screenshot says 83mins remaining if you missed it :p
  
  im currently at 54:45 with 190k...
• Jake wrote on 2014-09-05 00:41
  You're right, my bad. I did miss that 83 minutes! Also, the mobs CP are equal to me. After using just kunai storm, here's what the ground looks like for me after 2 minutes:
  
  

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  It can already be seen that if I keep attacking with kunai storm for the duration of the mission, there's no chance in hell the speed at which my doll bag can pick up gold will ever be able to clear the ground of gold. If the gold on your ground is always scarce like that, then I have no idea what could be causing it (assuming you continuously kill, which you've stated that you do, with multiple skills)
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-05 00:47
  this is 2 rounds of hydra ONLY
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/blWY3.jpg]
• jimpatrick wrote on 2014-09-05 00:51
  imo if you really want gold use wm,you can position yourself every time mobs spawns out of your wm range.i get like 700-900k for the whole mission without picking up gold just doll bags.
• Jake wrote on 2014-09-05 00:51
  So you do have a decent pool of gold going for you on the ground, at least, to the point where if that amount continuously drops, a single doll bag would not be fast enough to pick that up before more drops. Idk, I've always averaged what you are currently averaging per run (190k @ 54 minutes is 475k? after the full round). Even if it was a "double gold drop" event (as someone else suggested) that was providing you with 5xxk in an hour, that wouldn't make any sense, going back on the maximum speed a doll bag can function
  
  

  Quote from jimpatrick;1245335:

  imo if you really want gold use wm,you can position yourself every time mobs spawns out of your wm range.i get like 700-900k for the whole mission without picking up gold just doll bags.

  
  
  Just to clarify, do you mean multiple dolls summoned at once?
• jimpatrick wrote on 2014-09-05 01:05

  Quote from Jake;1245336:

  
  Just to clarify, do you mean multiple dolls summoned at once?

  
  
  yes i always summon 4 vocaloid dolls when doing dailies and ep4 but afaik it makes no difference since dolls would always go for the same gold pile lol.
• Invisible wrote on 2014-09-05 01:15
  I don't think Hydra was nerfed? Hydra has a target limit of 15 at rank 1, and I believe it keeps counting the monster until its corpse despawns; so it was never really efficient for farming episode 4 in the first place.
• Jake wrote on 2014-09-05 01:15

  Quote from jimpatrick;1245339:

  yes i always summon 4 vocaloid dolls when doing dailies and ep4 but afaik it makes no difference since dolls would always go for the same gold pile lol.

  
  
  Might make sense. I've never spawned more than one doll bag at a time and all of mine are out of time except one last one that I'm currently finishing off now lol
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-05 01:36
  end result 420k today... sigh... im like 90% sure hydra isn't doing as well as it did but there's nothing i can do about it except get the master title this weekend as well as r1 kunai storm.
  
  Thanks everyone.
  I appreciate your help/inputs~
• Syliara wrote on 2014-09-05 09:03
  Just gonna chime in real fast. Did a full run with wm spamming and only having 1 doll bag picking up gold and it net me around 700k.
• Syr wrote on 2014-09-05 15:53
  Hydra affecting less mobs isn't a nerf, it's a glitch/bug. I don't know why it happens, but it usually affects a couple of channels here on Mari. There's one channel that I know of on Mari where it doesn't happen.
  
  I don't let my doll bags do all the collecting, sometimes I frozen wave and pick up gold too. Might drop efficiency but I usually get at least 700k per run.
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-05 20:57

  Quote from Syr;1245464:

  Hydra affecting less mobs isn't a nerf, it's a glitch/bug. I don't know why it happens, but it usually affects a couple of channels here on Mari. There's one channel that I know of on Mari where it doesn't happen.
  
  I don't let my doll bags do all the collecting, sometimes I frozen wave and pick up gold too. Might drop efficiency but I usually get at least 700k per run.

  
  
  oh really?... that's interesting... im gonna try different channels then. ty
  
  edit: it turns out it was the channel problem, i'm making what i use to make before the crash :p
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-09-08 16:37
  I feel that saga 4 is fine.
  
  I have no doll bags to pick up gold, and just by spamming kunai storm, I made 900k. If I had doll bags, it's be closer to around 1.2 mil.