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Hitsugaya wrote on 2014-09-04 02:07
If you had a cc+4 savage fire wand with 3 magic attack magic craft stats and near max artisan with S5 special upgrade, is there any reason to get a ego fire wand?
Would a 50 all stat ego fire wand hit significantly more than savage? Or less.
I just want to know since theres no point in my hooked cutlass ego now since i dont dual wield anymore and use a secret 67 floors knight lance ( strongest lance in game now if you think 35k a point at 95, or 80k something a point at 98 is out of the question), and want to know if another ego would be worth using ( note my stats are already high and i would automatically get +4 chain cast).
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-09-04 02:20
Nope, no egos are worth the trouble.
With the amount of money spent to get max level 50 on an ego, you could have gotten a few almost perfect reforge and enchanted crafted Savage Fire Wands. And still have left over money to buy a lot of fashionogi items, and dye them.
I too, have a max level 50 stat ego that I never use.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-04 02:22
Quote from EndlessDreams;1245107:
Nope, no egos are worth the trouble.
With the amount of money spent to get max level 50 on an ego, you could have gotten a few almost perfect reforge and enchanted crafted Savage Fire Wands. And still have left over money to buy a lot of fashionogi items, and dye them.
This one already has an spirit weapon.
Quote from Hitsugaya;1245102:
If you had a cc+4 savage fire wand with 3 magic attack magic craft stats and near max artisan with S5 special upgrade, is there any reason to get a ego fire wand?
Would a 50 all stat ego fire wand hit significantly more than savage? Or less.
I just want to know since theres no point in my hooked cutlass ego now since i dont dual wield anymore and use a 67 floors penetrating knight lance ( strongest lance in game now if you think 35k a point at 95, or 80k something a point at 98 is out of the question), and want to know if another ego would be worth using ( note my stats are already high and i would automatically get +4 chain cast).
Your savage fire wand adds around 97 Magic Attack, which translates to 48 firebolt max damage. A capped spirit fire wand adds 115 firebolt max damage.
So, what is 67 firebolt max damage worth?
67
x 1.15 Fire Mastery
x 1.15 Bolt Mastery
x 2.5 Magic Weapon Mastery
x 6.5 Charge Count
x 2.5 Critical Hit
That's an extra 3.6k critical firebolt damage.
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Syliara wrote on 2014-09-04 02:23
Quote from Hitsugaya;1245102:
If you had a cc+4 savage fire wand with 3 magic attack magic craft stats and near max artisan with S5 special upgrade, is there any reason to get a ego fire wand?
Would a 50 all stat ego fire wand hit significantly more than savage? Or less.
I just want to know since theres no point in my hooked cutlass ego now since i dont dual wield anymore and use a 67 floors penetrating knight lance ( strongest lance in game now if you think 35k a point at 95, or 80k something a point at 98 is out of the question), and want to know if another ego would be worth using ( note my stats are already high and i would automatically get +4 chain cast).
That doesnt exist.... 67th floors is suffix... But im assuming it was a typo. Ego firewand is alright but I'm not sure how much it compares to a savage fire wand.
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Hitsugaya wrote on 2014-09-04 03:59
Quote from Nui;1245110:
That doesnt exist.... 67th floors is suffix... But im assuming it was a typo. Ego firewand is alright but I'm not sure how much it compares to a savage fire wand.
yeh i meant secret 67th floor's
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Hitsugaya wrote on 2014-09-04 03:59
Quote from Nui;1245110:
That doesnt exist.... 67th floors is suffix... But im assuming it was a typo. Ego firewand is alright but I'm not sure how much it compares to a savage fire wand.
yeh i meant secret 67th floor's
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Oberynn wrote on 2014-09-04 04:19
Quote from Nui;1245110:
That doesnt exist.... 67th floors is suffix... But im assuming it was a typo. Ego firewand is alright but I'm not sure how much it compares to a savage fire wand.
The best MAX ROLL EVERYTHING s6 savage firewand (excluding enchants) you can possibly make gives 57 firebolt damage and it will cost a boatload of money.
To get that on an ego (just lv 29 STR) you only need like 2 weeks and some event gems or time to afk at an NPC.
tl;dr: ego fire wand is the only ego that's actually significantly better than its special upgraded counterpart.
The only reason to have a savage fire is because you won't have the base crit to use a fire wand ego until you're several couple thousand levels and because of the added flexibility of blaze/fireball if you don't already have another weapon to use those skills with.
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Hitsugaya wrote on 2014-09-04 05:05
i have almost 40 str and could use a stat protection pot to transfer, and i also get about 134 barehanded crit, and 152% with overture. Although i presume that will increase more once i finish ninja, especially sakura abyss. As for the blaze i use a s5 savage ice wand (max magic craft stat, almost max artisan), and hit about 50k crit no reforges. Just want the ego or savage fire for casting firebolt.
So i suppose getting an ego fire wand is worth it since there's no melee weapon ego i could use, and gun/knuckle ego's don't exist. Better than having something i'd never use.
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KBaller69 wrote on 2014-09-11 19:27
Hitsugaya, you must have completely forgotten about Languhiris Bone-Breaker
(Max Roll Artisan)
Attack 20~83 Critical 14%
Balance 9% Injury Rate 10~30%
Durability 7
Piercing Level +2 (original pierce is +3 making it +5)
246 / 93,000G
Knight Lance
(Max Roll Artisan)
Attack 45~80 Critical 43%
Balance 7%
Piercing Level 4 Durability 9
248 / 77,000G
But, as for the wand. I honestly believe it's all in preference, I mean if you're gonna have that epic ego.....might as well switch it to something epic.
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-09-12 04:03
Quote from KBaller69;1246632:
Hitsugaya, you must have completely forgotten about Languhiris Bone-Breaker
(Max Roll Artisan)
Attack 20~83 Critical 14%
Balance 9% Injury Rate 10~30%
Durability 7
Piercing Level +2 (original pierce is +3 making it +5)
246 / 93,000G
Knight Lance
(Max Roll Artisan)
Attack 45~80 Critical 43%
Balance 7%
Piercing Level 4 Durability 9
248 / 77,000G
But, as for the wand. I honestly believe it's all in preference, I mean if you're gonna have that epic ego.....might as well switch it to something epic.
After the SAO shit came out, Secret 67th floor's KL is much easier to obtain than a Secret Penetrating bone breaker... at a similar damage too.
Also, you forgot to add in the engineering bonus for bone breaker.
Which would you realistically pick? A lance that is far more easily obtainable, and also easier to blow up? Or the alternative which doesn't give significant damage improvement at a much higher cost involved?
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KBaller69 wrote on 2014-09-12 22:59
Well, when you're speaking of "the best" the availability, rolls, or whatever aren't relevant.
Also, back on topic, Hitsugaya: A fire wand does 50% less damage with blaze. At least according to the mabinogi wiki.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-09-13 07:45
I don't quite recall the formula for how the ego fire wand works, but I'm pretty sure it was something rather strange in reality. What I do remember though, is that your ego needs only to be around level 20 to surpass that of a savage wand. Depending on the price you can buy 100% proficiency fire wands at, it can be a lot cheaper than savage wands as well; mostly due to the fact that the savage wand would deteriorate.