PvP questions

• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-18 05:32
  so under the normal circumstances, one would usually wm/windblast an enemy away if they used chain 2 on you, right?
  
  today i couldn't do this for some reason but only to somersault kick :( and it feels weird.
  
  Also how does one beat ninjas? They're really annoying and alchemists like me cri evertim
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-09-18 05:35
  There is nothing fair about PvP. Just hit first, and prevent them from hitting.
  
  Just use stuff like Puppet Snare and Mirage Missile to win.
  
  Often, you can start your fighter chain between the opponent's Chain 2 and Chain 3.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-09-18 11:27
  You cant cancel fighter chain combos except dropkick/spinning uppercut.
  Other ways to cancel them are either autodefense (AKA ping) or shockwave (merlin knuckles)
  
  For ninja, you really can't do anything if people just spam shadow bind and spam kunai storm to you
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-09-18 13:05
  Just don't pvp.
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-09-18 13:15

  Quote from k1nsoo;1248013:

  You cant cancel fighter chain combos except dropkick/spinning uppercut.
  Other ways to cancel them are either autodefense (AKA ping) or shockwave (merlin knuckles)
  

  
  
  but I have been canceling somersault kick with smash,windblast and am before :( sometimes I can def/ct during the kick?
  Im just gonna assume that it was latency differences or something.
  wiki doesn't have a lot of PvP info
• Blassreiter wrote on 2014-09-18 14:54

  Quote from Citrusjuice;1248029:

  but I have been canceling somersault kick with smash,windblast and am before :( sometimes I can def/ct during the kick?
  Im just gonna assume that it was latency differences or something.
  wiki doesn't have a lot of PvP info

  
  
  He's saying you can cancel Somersault Kick and Dropkick, but not other fighter skills. If you're looking for a PvP guide, you probably wont find any because the majority of players avoid PvP and the few who does do PvP doesn't do guides because there isn't much of a guide or they don't want their combo/fight style to be made public.
  
  Also to answer your questions instead of telling you that PvP is a waste of time, not everyone uses Wind Blast after a chain 2 skill. Everyone has a different duel style. For instance I don't use guard cylinders in PvP because I don't have good alchemy skills so during a Fighter skill, I can land a Smash by switching weapons quickly.
  
  As for Ninjas, you can establish that Shadow Bind should be banned (it should because of how it's like Frozen Blast/IS). Otherwise you need to keep landing attacks to prevent the Ninja from attacking, or you can Ninja yourself or use Guns/Bows that can fight back a Ninja if used properly.
• alwmiioktm wrote on 2014-09-19 01:09
  The reason for being able to cancel/ stop uppercut and not somersault kick is because uppercut no longer has it's ridiculous stun time like it was prior to genesis. Quite a few instance load skills can be used immediately after the damage is Taejon from uppercut, the same can't be said for somersault kick however. Since almost immediately after taking the damage the animation for the skill is done and (based on connection) the user can instantly go into a safe chain 3 (pummel). If you were trying to counter that with just alchemy would be a bit iffy IMO, maybe a quick windmill but really the two things that would have the best chance of stopping it are charging strike/ shockwave. Also battle alchemy is terrible in pvp, really anything that isn't ele fighter is terrible in pvp. It's a broken system ( like many things in mabi) but it's our broken system :)
  
  Anyone that is even somewhat competent with damage and has moderate distance on you should easily wreck with ninja,especially to an alchemist.