[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Ranged Combat // 12th of Feburary, 2015

• Kapra wrote on 2015-02-12 06:00
  Also, I don't think it was posted here yet but here's the new trailer.
  [video=youtube;Ec6NfvL0x04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec6NfvL0x04[/video]
  I hope we get this all as one update in NA.
  
  Also, "Directed by Badhbh Cath" lol
  
  

  Quote from Tropa;1264866:

  BUT, is it worth doing? is it rewarding?

  
  The gimmik of these dungeons is Totems, which are an untapped resource. They don't come from gachapons, they rarely come from events, and they don't come from existing content or crafting skills. And these ones are customizable/mergable. So long as this remains the sole source of non-crappy totems, it will be worth it and stand on its own even in G40 where we can 1-hit the boss.
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2015-02-12 06:07

  Quote from Tetosan;1264856:

  Upgrade your Connection or get better ranks i don't have problems even on KR ^^''
  
  Also i can use Urgent Shot without locking up, must only happen every other time or so

  
  
  how does connection have anything to do with the slowest aiming archery skill ever ?
  
  also is urgent shot this new gambling skill to see if you get locked now? lmao
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-12 06:12

  Quote from Aeribella;1264850:

  On the plus side, now theres a ranged way to get piercing level 9 right :D?

  
  
  No. 4 is the max you can get because of the crossbow, bows can't get the piercing enchants.
  
  

  Quote from Rixx;1264859:

  Apparently the new dungeon is really challenging.
  Have fun, those "i want challenge" people. Your dream has come true.

  
  
  Well, if we want to make a cross bow that's on par with the bhafel combo damage, this kind of thing is expected, no?
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-12 06:13

  Quote from Citrusjuice;1264869:

  how does connection have anything to do with the slowest aiming archery skill ever ?
  
  also is urgent shot this new gambling skill to see if you get locked now? lmao

  
  
  As i said i neither get locked up when using Urgent Shot, surely used it 100 times now, idk what the f*** these people do wrong.
  
  Also as said. I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS UTULIZING ANY ARCHERY SKILL WITH THE CURRENT AIMING SPEED.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-02-12 06:14

  Quote from Kapra;1264868:

  Also, "Directed by Badhbh Cath" lol

  
  
  Oh Jeez. Morrighan, Neamhain, and Macha came up with a plan to shit Milletians and they did it!
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-12 06:14

  Quote from Citrusjuice;1264869:

  how does connection have anything to do with the slowest aiming archery skill ever ?
  
  also is urgent shot this new gambling skill to see if you get locked now? lmao

  
  
  Yeah, Urgent Shot is buggy right now, according to some people, but we'll see.
  
  As for the connection part, it's because the aiming is server sided, meaning it won't show the true "accuracy". They changed it to client sided to make this issue more manageable.
  
  

  Quote from Tetosan;1264873:

  
  Also as said. I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS UTULIZING ANY ARCHERY SKILL WITH THE CURRENT AIMING SPEED.

  
  
  This is honestly how I feel about archery.
• willcaster wrote on 2015-02-12 06:21

  Quote from Kapra;1264868:

  Also, I don't think it was posted here yet but here's the new trailer.
  [video=youtube;Ec6NfvL0x04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec6NfvL0x04[/video]
  I hope we get this all as one update in NA.
  
  Also, "Directed by Badhbh Cath" lol
  
  
  The gimmik of these dungeons is Totems, which are an untapped resource. They don't come from gachapons, they rarely come from events, and they don't come from existing content or crafting skills. And these ones are customizable/mergable. So long as this remains the sole source of non-crappy totems, it will be worth it and stand on its own even in G40 where we can 1-hit the boss.

  
  
  I hate this videos... is like a diff game
• Rixx wrote on 2015-02-12 06:23

  Quote from ironwoman;1264871:

  No. 4 is the max you can get because of the crossbow, bows can't get the piercing enchants.
  
  
  
  Well, if we want to make a cross bow that's on par with the bhafel combo damage, this kind of thing is expected, no?

  
  
  Someone did a calculation and celtic royal crossbow is better than bhafel hunter + huntress.
  
  can't be bothered translating right now.
  
  source: http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=free&page=1&sn1=&divpage=92&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=501523
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-12 06:30

  Quote from Rixx;1264879:

  Someone did a calculation and celtic royal crossbow is better than bhafel hunter + huntress.
  
  can't be bothered translating right now.
  
  source: http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=free&page=1&sn1=&divpage=92&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=501523

  
  
  Not even really surprised. I guess I'll stop my hunt on making the Bhafel combo now, lol.
  
  Of course, there's still the range advantage the bow has, which is still a big plus. Not huge of an issue for me though.
• Rixx wrote on 2015-02-12 06:31

  Quote from ironwoman;1264881:

  Not even really surprised. I guess I'll stop my hunt on making the Bhafel combo now, lol.
  
  Of course, there's still the range advantage the bow has, which is still a big plus. Not huge of an issue for me though.

  
  
  On top of that...
  Celtic Royal + Special Bolt Bundle combo is better than Piercing Level 9 lances when using judgement blade.
  
  source: http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=free&page=1&sn1=&divpage=92&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=501529
• Kapra wrote on 2015-02-12 06:34

  Quote from willcaster;1264878:

  I hate this videos... is like a diff game

  
  That video is actually surprisingly accurate.
  
  Here are my observations, they might be wrong:
  

  
  
  • The dungeon can be customized to have harder mobs and presumably better rewards, among other things.
    
  • The floors seem to have pretty random setting. You might be qilla beach, osna sail, lake neagh, etc. There is no exit button like shadow missions. Also like dungeons, unlimited duration, not time limited like most shadow missions/theatre missions.
    
  • You can enter solo or in parties, but if you do a difficulty on solo for the first time and finish it, you unlock a title.
    
  • There's also random mobs. One of hte stages I noticed was Falias, and you fought hordes of Shadow Archers and Heavy Gargoyles together. It's strange and I kind of like it.
    
  • The boss arena is big. The boss is a big suit of armor, and a mage. He rarely uses melee at all. Attacks I noticed him use were lightning bolt and ice bolt. . . He is really tanky. I've noticed him ping red for heavy stander and ping yellow for natural shield but I didn't notice him go blue yet because magic/alchemy wasn't really used. His ponytail changes color. In the boss cutscene it was red, but I've also seen it blue or green, it might have Night Change like the Nightmare-Horse-Humanoids, not sure if that's what it is. Oh yea, it has boss cutscenes, that's a thing. He teleports, and seem to have a lot of range ot it. Not sure if it's just that he has more teleport range than other things, or if he just has more room to work with because the arena is so huge (draw distance needs to be increased). He could use more aggressive AI.
    
  • The boss spawns with a bunch of underlings that periodically spawn, not sure if the boss is the one summoning them though. I see random mobs like Cobweb Mummies which don't really match the boss or the arena in terms of style. I don't mind that, my only problem is that they seem slow to aggro you. It's not batshit crazy aggro likes in Abyss dungeons. I think aggro rate should be improved in the boss room specifically, not so much in other areas.
    
  • The rewards are unique. Totems are an untapped system, as they only come from events so far. They're not really taken advantage of in gachapons, life skills, or other existing contents. The totems here are also things you have to work on, grind for, and upgrade. And potentially stronger than existing totems. So long as this remains the only source of high tier totems, this dungeon will always have a use, unlike other dungeons.
    

  
  I wasn't expecting much from DevCAT, so I'm kind of impressed.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-12 06:40

  Quote from Rixx;1264882:

  On top of that...
  Celtic Royal + Special Bolt Bundle combo is better than Piercing Level 9 lances when using judgement blade.
  
  source: http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=free&page=1&sn1=&divpage=92&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=501529

  
  
  Wouldn't that actually be not the case in NA?
  
  Reason being, we have the Ninja talent. Also, can't forget about the 67th Floor enchant. We have more damage to pull off in the melee aspect.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-02-12 06:49

  Quote from Kapra;1264868:

  Also, I don't think it was posted here yet but here's the new trailer.
  [video=youtube;Ec6NfvL0x04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec6NfvL0x04[/video]

  
  
  This is pretty neat.
  
  
  I especially love the design of the boss near the end of the trailer.
• ReFuSeR wrote on 2015-02-12 06:49
  Start selling dem bhafels to unsuspecting noobs.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-02-12 08:23
  Just a little update. The boss can also use Meteor Strike, Ranged Attack (where does he pull the arrows from. . . He's a giant piece of armor with no weapons), Magnum Shot, Mirage Missile, Judgement blade, and Celestial Spike. He also uses that one Girgashiy skill that immobilizes the player in crystal. He can summon clones of you to fight you. There's some skill that makes purple circles on the floor but idk what skill that is. He spawns with Cobweb Ghosts, Goblin Hunters, those Goblins that look like monkeys, Skeleton Ogres, and Castle Golems. All with tanky health. He doesn't have advanced heavy stander so if you annoy him you can interrupt his charging animations. He also changes the color of his ponytails, I've noticed him be Blue, Green, Red, and Gray. Idk what his color does yet but as I said, it's probably a Nightmare-deal. He also can teleport halfway across the arena, which is a huge distance. What skills/abilities he has probably varies with difficulty. He could use better AI/larger aggro range. But still, I'd suspect most people here would have trouble in at least the hardest difficulty of this boss if not earlier.
  
  People were mostly going hit and run because they can't handle this boss, from what I've seen. The only "typical" tactic they used is trying to clear out all the mobs then corner him at the door frame (have to be very exact because the door frame isn't very wide) so they can spam way of the gun on him.
  
  Edit: For the laughs
  

  [Image: http://ft.trillian.im/d8946682d6c7da7bef24121282783a3ada1b2a88/6whyFrU4fApIK3GXIHOmic5ZLegQs.jpg]

  
  
  Edit 2: I forgot to mention he also very rarely normal attacks (looks like he's shoving the player out of the way). That's the only melee I ever saw him use, unless you count Judgement Blade as melee.