What gear should I work on?

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800mans wrote on 2015-02-17 10:17

I quit for quite a while, and back then I ran a full clothing damage set (oblivion, ambush, dex, etc.) with mana usage reduction for mana shield. It seems that mana shield isn't great now.

Excluding gear from black dragon/white dragon raids, what do people use now (close combat players). Should I run a full heavy armor set (since apparently I can equip two accs now with a sufficient heavy armor mastery rank) or a light armor set? I primarily play fighter/warrior->old-school melee or lance.

If possible, please provide the top two~ish enchants for each armor piece.

In addition, what weapons (knuckles/dual wield 1h/2h swords/lances) are commonly found r1 reforged that are worth using? Apparently gaches were spitting them out so much that its much cheaper to pre-purchase r1 than it is to reforge to r1.

Thanks!
Kaeporo wrote on 2015-02-17 11:34

1. Choose your specialization.

You stated that you were looking at pursuing close-combat. As a Human, you have two perfectly viable options; dual-wielding swords or wielding lances.

2. Identify your projected investment.

How much are you willing to spend in order to reach your goals? You don't have to spend a dime to make a flawless equipment set, though that will save you a lot of time, but you will expend a lot of time. Do you shave off some of that effort by only buying pre-reforged equipment instead of utilizing set effect apparel that doesn't come pre-reforged? Determine this sooner rather than later.

3. Orient your equipment.

Set effects are awesome. If you want to knock out some key things with pre-reforged gear you'll have a bit of extra freedom in this area. Otherwise, here are some key items to build around:

Cressida
Bohemian
Languhiris/Chinese Dragon
Thames
Karis
Royal Knight Armor
Fleet Feet

The bolded items are most relevant to your interests.

- Lance users want to max their poke damage, so the Thames Set is highly recommended.
- Dual-wield users want to max out Final Hit. They have two perfectly viable options:
I - Invest in attack speed. This can be somewhat offset by enchants but the armors listed are viable.
II - Invest in mobility. RK keeps you healthy and it can be coupled with FF for added movement speed.

4. Make some weapons.

When in doubt, just remember:

Piercing > Critical Damage > Max Damage >>>>> Everything else

R6 Secret Penetrating/67th Floor's Knight Lance
- Fire/Ice/Lightning 6 level
- Smash Damage 20 level

R6 36th Floor's/56th Floor's The Absolute/48th Floor's Celtic Royal Knight Sword x2
- Fire/Ice/Lightning 3 level

"Wait a goddamn minute, those aren't out yet!" Calm your tits - they're worth the wait.

In the meantime, pick up a lance, a cheap pre-reforged highlander claymore, or some rainbow beam swords.

When making awesome equipment, R6 followed by enchants, followed by reforges. If you're scared of the sudden realization that step 6 can completely and utterly annihilate everything you're about to do, enchants > R5 > reforges.

5. Enchant some gear

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I'll save some effort here and just post my gear. The weapons are hit-or-miss but the gear is pretty top notch. Notes:

Champion is a great armor suffix.
Viscount is a great enchant. Attack speed and max damage.
Camo has a crazy roll but it's good.
Butterfly is one of your strongest footwear suffixes.
Seething is a good alternative to encore.
Check the KR test group's threads for new enchants. I've mentioned some but a few others are great.

5. Reforge some gear

Reference: Useful Reforges

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Ranged Weapon:
Ice/Fire/Lightning
Effective Range
Support Shot Damage

Melee Weapon:
Ice/Fire/Lightning
Smash Damage

Fire Wand:
Firebolt Max Damage
Magic Attack
Casting Speed

Ice Wand:
Magic Attack
Blaze Explosion Damage
Ice Spear Max Damage

Staff:
Magic Attack
Hail Storm Max Damage
Ice Spear Max Damage
Thunder Max Damage

Cylinders:
Rain Casting Cloud Duration

Knuckles
Ice/Fire/Lightning

Instrument:
Playing Instrument Effect
Musical Knowledge Normal Performance Effect

Control Bars:
Act 7: Climactic Crash Damage Magnification

Dual Guns:
Dual Gun Maximum Damage

Shurikens:
Kunai Storm Attack Range
Shadow Bind Duration
Sakura Abyss Attack Range

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Head:
Charge Able to charge without shields
Crash Shot Max Fragment Range
Lance Charge Cooldown Decreased
Final Hit Cooldown Decreased
Act 6: Crisis Radius
Shock Effect Duration
Flame Burst Duration

Body:
Crash Shot Max Fragments
Blaze Explosion Radius
Rain Casting Water Cannon Damage
Final Hit Duration
Evasion Total Cooldown Limit
Assault Slash Damage
Hail Storm Range
Ice Spear Attack Radius

Gloves:
Crash Shot Fragment Damage
Magnum Shot Damage
Lance Charge Charge Damage
Blaze Damage
Chain Mastery Damage
Mana Shield Damage Reduction Rate
Ice Spear Explosion Range
Flame Burst Attack Range

Shoes:
Rain Casting Cooldown Decreased
Assault Slash Attack Distance
Clay Alchemy Efficiency
Drop Kick Damage
Shooting Rush Damage
Wind Blast Range

Accessories:
Charge Able to charge without shields
Battlefield Overture Duration
Healing HP Recovery
Attack Speed
Smash Damage
Magic Attack

...and with that, you're done. Hope this helps.
ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-17 17:48

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Few things I'd disagree with/like to point out. Keep in mind that gears are still mostly based on personal preference.

1. Drop Kick damage doesn't go on Knuckles, so you'll have to reforge your shoes for that. I know Drop Kick can do stupid damage with the right set up, but I don't want to reforge shoes just for a skill that you have to set up your chains with. In general, you don't want to reforge your gear for fighter, since fighter doesn't do great compared to other classes. Lances still have better damage anyway.

2. Armor choices: As for the heavy armor, I'd say just look at Thames only. You'll have plenty of defensive stats just from Thames. Other heavy armors don't give out much merit besides more defensive stats, which isn't really needed. Also, for reforges for Lances, gloves, and shoes, considering that you're heavily melee based, making a set for Lance charge is nice too. Ideal set is either multiple elemental reforge on Lance or ele + LC Main Target Damage on lance, Lance Charge charge damage on gloves, Lance Charge Horseback Additional Distance on shoes, and cooldown on hats. For heavy armor, you always want Sight Champion as the enchant, as you WILL need the balance for your melee attacks. I gotta say though, because of how humans play out later and how much they hybrid, heavy investment in a heavy armor isn't much necessary, as you'll use them less and less. I myself used to have a nice Thames set, but just sold it away as I got better gears, I use Languhiris Armor and bohemian set now.
As for light armor, the best one to get would be Languhiris Chaser Armor, but the most cost efficient would be Chinese Dragon Armor. For those, you can just put Seething/Innocent Champion.

3. For clothing, look no further than bohemian set, unless you have some nicely pre-reforged set. As for bohemian set, you could gear towards crash shot or magnum shot. I lean towards magnum shot, and the reasoning behind? You'll simply be able to get more magnum shots off. This is personal preference, but as for archery, human or elf, I still lean towards magnum shot.

4. Bows. I noticed the addition of Support Shot damage in the reforge section. While it is nice to have your support shot to the max potential when meleeing, I don't think this reforge is much worth it considering how situational it is. Other reforges that you could look for are max attack power and Arrow Revolver Max.

5. Instruments. What Kaeporo has listed are the ones that you want to get the maximum buff you can get MOST of the time. To go for even higher buff but at less times, Musical Knowledge Inspiring Performance effect level 10 is what you want. If you can get all three reforges, that'd be the most ideal.

6. Shieldless charge. I personally wouldn't go for this at all, for hats and accessories. Reasons? You're going to be lance charging anyway, having shieldless charge is pretty redundant and kind of useless. Instead of Shieldless charge on accessories, you can have more damage modifiers, like smash, lance charge, magnum shot, blaze, etc.

Those are my two cents. I don't know if you're going to branch out into other skills, but if you do, you gotta keep the other gears in mind.
800mans wrote on 2015-02-17 19:36

Thanks so much! This was so comprehensive:)
800mans wrote on 2015-02-27 07:17

hey so i managed to get the cd drag pieces, ran shieldless charge on an avenger acc, currently working on another. I had a question to follow up, should i run helm cd, body cd, glove cd, fleet feet with hummingbird on helm or, viscount greaves with the rest cd. thanks!
Kaeporo wrote on 2015-02-27 10:14

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5. Instruments. What Kaeporo has listed are the ones that you want to get the maximum buff you can get MOST of the time. To go for even higher buff but at less times, Musical Knowledge Inspiring Performance effect level 10 is what you want. If you can get all three reforges, that'd be the most ideal.

Inspiring performance effect is shit. I wouldn't recommend pursuing that reforge since it kicks in so rarely.

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2. Armor choices: As for the heavy armor, I'd say just look at Thames only. You'll have plenty of defensive stats just from Thames. Other heavy armors don't give out much merit besides more defensive stats, which isn't really needed. Also, for reforges for Lances, gloves, and shoes, considering that you're heavily melee based, making a set for Lance charge is nice too. Ideal set is either multiple elemental reforge on Lance or ele + LC Main Target Damage on lance, Lance Charge charge damage on gloves, Lance Charge Horseback Additional Distance on shoes, and cooldown on hats. For heavy armor, you always want Sight Champion as the enchant, as you WILL need the balance for your melee attacks. I gotta say though, because of how humans play out later and how much they hybrid, heavy investment in a heavy armor isn't much necessary, as you'll use them less and less. I myself used to have a nice Thames set, but just sold it away as I got better gears, I use Languhiris Armor and bohemian set now.
As for light armor, the best one to get would be Languhiris Chaser Armor, but the most cost efficient would be Chinese Dragon Armor. For those, you can just put Seething/Innocent Champion.

I would shy away from advertising Lance Charge seeing as how Final Hit just completely puts it and everything else to shame. Royal Knight armor makes a lot of sense if you plan on using magic/final hit.

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6. Shieldless charge. I personally wouldn't go for this at all, for hats and accessories. Reasons? You're going to be lance charging anyway, having shieldless charge is pretty redundant and kind of useless. Instead of Shieldless charge on accessories, you can have more damage modifiers, like smash, lance charge, magnum shot, blaze, etc.

Shield-less charge reforge is one of the best reforges out there. I wouldn't rule it out without some careful thought.
ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-27 18:16

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Inspiring performance effect is shit. I wouldn't recommend pursuing that reforge since it kicks in so rarely.

Of course normal performance effect is better, hence why I said "at less times". The reasonably higher preference would be normal performance effect, but if you can get the inspiring performance effect as the triple bonus, that works too.

Quote from Kaeporo;1266582:
I would shy away from advertising Lance Charge seeing as how Final Hit just completely puts it and everything else to shame. Royal Knight armor makes a lot of sense if you plan on using magic/final hit.

The thing is though, you can still have Lance Charge reforges and still be able to final hit effectively. All you really need to have ridiculous FH is duration reforge on the armor, and there's no real need to reforge armor for Lance Charge, so it all works out. I still don't really like Royal Knight Armor, especially if you're using magic/final hit, since using either would mean you're obliterating everything anyway. You can still get 20+ defense easily with Thames Plate Armor.

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Shield-less charge reforge is one of the best reforges out there. I wouldn't rule it out without some careful thought.

This is really heavily reliant on how the person plays, but if the person is really gonna use lance a lot, or magic alot, the reforge is rendered a waste since you don't need the reforge to use Lance Charge or Charge. Only way I could see it being more useful is when the renovation patch comes out and people start dual wielding again.

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hey so i managed to get the cd drag pieces, ran shieldless charge on an avenger acc, currently working on another. I had a question to follow up, should i run helm cd, body cd, glove cd, fleet feet with hummingbird on helm or, viscount greaves with the rest cd. thanks!

I'd run helmet cd, body cd, gloves cd, and fleet feet with hawk enchant. Do not put hummingbird, that enchant is really bad compared to other suffix hats can get.
Osayidan wrote on 2015-02-27 19:30

Shieldless charge accessory is great for certain play styles. I want one for when I switch to mage fighter/melee using merlin gauntlets.

However on headgear there might be better reforges possible for most people.

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Kaeporo wrote on 2015-02-27 22:38

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I still don't really like Royal Knight Armor, especially if you're using magic/final hit, since using either would mean you're obliterating everything anyway. You can still get 20+ defense easily with Thames Plate Armor.

Defense is a fairly meaningless equipment stat as you'll get more than enough to shunt normal attacks from standard enemies. I'm not advertising Royal Knight because it contributes more defense, i'm advertising Royal Knight armor because it affords/allows:

+20% ranged auto-defense (20% chance to ignore ranged stun).
+20% melee auto-defense (20% chance to ignore melee stun; additionally shunts damage by 50%).

You can additional pair it with Fleet Feet (unlike the Thames Set) for:

+20% movement speed (that stacks with other movement speed sources).

I think that the age of lances is coming to an end. People are going to see that Final Hit is piss-easy to use, gear, and has better synergy with other talents for most content.
ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-27 23:08

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I think that the age of lances is coming to an end. People are going to see that Final Hit is piss-easy to use, gear, and has better synergy with other talents for most content.

That's the problem with dual wielding though.
Even after the patch, it's not really that much useful for anything other than Final Hit. Lance is still a top dog weapon in KR server when people are not using Final Hit. A lance will still windmill or smash more efficiently, which are still main points to look at. Heck, even ele 6 bow mill can be more powerful than ele 3 x 2 swords.