RandomguyonMN wrote on 2015-03-27 17:56
Sit down, get comfortable because it's story time.
I was in a guild once, who took "no drama" so seriously we appointed 5 "officers" to mediate the entire guild to make sure no drama starts both in game and in our website forum. We even had our own Officer's forum separate from the guild forum.
Before we actually get into the story I need to tell you all the events that lead up to it.
First there was a girl let's call her "Mitsu", her reputation was ruined years before the drama started over an argument she had with a buyer from her shop and the buyer got so so angry he/she made an entirely new character whose name was similar to Mitsu and began scamming people and everyone thought it was the real Mitsu. This made her hate the Mabi community.
Then there was another guy, let's call him "Ben", he and the rest of the guild got into an argument over letting this one guy into the guild that previously caused friction with him and one other person he knew. In the end, we let the person he didn't like in because the guild leader vouched for him. Ben was actually very popular in the guild and people held his opinion in high regard, he was also one of the officers in charge of preventing conflict.
There was another girl: "Cuddly", she was very very popular, half the guild loved her, but she was kind of immature and emotional.
Then there's the last guy: "[S]whiny douche[/S]" "Shinji". In this guild we had elections for the officers that mediated everything and I won the ballet. He kinda got mad and I got into a small fight with him and he basically concluded the election was a sham and nepotism was rampant.
So it started when a huge duplication scandal was sweeping over Tarlach, gold was being duped en mass, channels were crashing and it seemed like Nexon wasn't doing anything. Mitsu, who was getting ready to move to Japan, decided to go on a rant about this game's terrible community and tells everyone (sarcastically) to just go ahead and dupe since there doesn't seem to be any penalty.
Cuddly misheard all of this, not knowing Mitsu's personality/history. Cuddly rushed to the guild forums claiming that there are dupers in the guild and called for an immediate investigation. After the officers (who all know Mitsu's intent) explained that Mitsu was not actually serious and there was no duping in the guild, Shinji made a post claiming the officers are in on the duping and were covering it up, literally comparing us to Nazis and actually posted the Nazi anthem on the forum.
Ben had enough of this and just told everyone the guild is immature and so he left, bringing along a few people with him. I make special note of this because he was one of the more respected officers and instead of helping us calm things down he did the opposite and made it worse.
Cuddly also left, not sure if she actually believed there were dupers but she seemed to just be really upset over the way the debacle (that she escalated) blew up the way it, when she left a huge amount of people followed her.
The guild leader was getting bored with the game at the time and I guess this was the final straw for her and she quit the game, leaving the guild in the hands of a replacement guild master. We stayed together for about month but it was kind of awkward because there were people who were still friends with the people who left and it became hard to be both a guild member and friends with those people. So finally, the guild disbanded.
Blissfulkill wrote on 2015-03-27 18:04
You just haven't found the right guild.
Caroo wrote on 2015-03-27 18:53
Our guild is so What and meh about everything and we kind of take out matters to our own hands. in fact each member's drama is always outside the guild so we never really had any drama. Maybe keeping to yourselves could work. Or just not bring up anything on the guild chat.
Rikudemon wrote on 2015-03-27 23:26
AND YOU GET A CHILL PILL AND YOU GET A CHILL PILL AND YOOOUUU GET A CHILL PILL
Elleanior wrote on 2015-03-28 06:55
Quote from Kingofrunes;1269163:
My guild is too random to have drama. Then again I barely pay attention to guild chat most of the time preferring to be the distant yet aloof kind of player.
And everybody who actually knows you is constantly trying to drag you into the random-ass shit that does happen. Sounds like Mahou alright.
Last major drama our guild had was... let's see... a particular individual who had been a royal begging dick in gc and was given grace twice before he was kicked for good. There was also somebody who had no brain to keyboard filter and was kicked only once, and then there was that giant scandal fiasco, but that was quickly taken away from guild chat into the private chats.
You just need to be there at the right time to see the good stuff. If you missed it, then consider yourself lucky, because then you don't have the discomfort of having to choose sides, especially when you don't know why people are arguing.
Kaeporo wrote on 2015-03-28 09:27
Quote from ironwoman;1269189:
Drama happens when people have the mind of 12 year olds.
Honestly, if you're mature enough, this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Pretty much.
I'm used to military life where everyone is bred to be on about the same page. We all bring something unique to the table and while those unique traits are capitalized on as much as possible, at the end of the day we're all expected to adhere to the same basic code. It's a matter of basic professionalism and people who break the rules are held accountable.
My current guild is less of an organized team and more of a collection of contractual affiliates. There can't be any drama because at the end of the day, it's just business.
ZeroPantz wrote on 2015-03-31 07:36
It really does seem like when people clearly state they want no drama they jinx themselves, doesn't it? But I guess it is also because they try so hard not to have drama, and are overly sensitive in getting mad (Since they clearly hate drama) that they do get drama.
Here are my Mabi drama related stories:
I once had what many people would call drama (since to me it really isn't) in my own guild, and it was a friend who can snap like that, because she was really emotionally unstable. Now I am the type of person who, can be really empathic and all, but that still does not mean I condone that type of behaviour. So you had a rough day, you feel like your life can't get any worse, well sorry to hear, we can talk about it if you want, I will try to cheer you up, but just don't start to Q.Q and act unreasonable and start PMSing on me and the other guildies for no good reason.
Same thing happened with another dude in my guild who was always kind of weird anyway, and then when we went ballooning to hunt for Wyverns one day he was acting super weird, he ignored us,but was obviously there and when we asked him if everything was okay he responded super angry as if we were obnoxious. Honestly, if you are not up to be social then stay away from places where you should be able to be social. Don't bother me with your shitty mood if you can't go about it in a reasonable manner, cause I never bother others with it either. The fact you are depressed doesn't mean you have a right to be a fruitcake with me and our friends.
One time a friend of a friend in Mabi kept being awfully rude, we were supposed to go do things together so after we met up in Tara we were discussing what to do, and she kept running off not saying a word (Despite that she was the one who initiated the idea and told us where to meet) even after we were running after her chasing her all the way through the city, asking her to wait she ignored us. So I asked her what in the world was wrong with her for doing that, so she starts to flip out on me as if I attacked her and she called me annoying. I asked her how in the world I was annoying (since she was the one who was LOL) and she said that I probably expected her to kiss my ass instead. I told her, that no, I did not, she expected me to kiss her ass clearly, and be okay with her behaviour. Because when I pointed out that I was not pleased with it, she was majorly offended after all. I told her I was merely inquiring how she found me annoying since I am open to self-improvement. :P Unlike her.
She gnores that and then goes on about how bad her childhood was and how much her life sucks and whatnot, clearly making it sound far more dramatic than it truly is too, and I don't even know why she tells me all of this because it's not like I care about that. She couldn't even spell anything properly so I just sat there facepalming. She ended her dramatic tirade with: So if I want to be antisocial I have every damn right to be! I told her: So your angsty past justifies that you're a female dog? No. What do you expect from me now, pity? No. We all have shit in our lives, get over it. She then proceeded to tell me that I should drop dead cause I was an asshole. That cracked me up, and I told her: Oh no, I am so hurt by the meaningless words coming from a meaningless person. Honestly, why would anything like that affect me? If they're like that, I am obviously better off without them. Needless to say, I removed her from my life. I rather stick around optimistic and fun people who can smile despite whatever they go through like myself. Life can be too much of a pain already at times to want to waste the times you CAN have fun on being depressed about it after all. Hakuna Matata. xD
Needless to say, this type of stuff doesn't get to me though. It's just that I am trying to say I am actually pretty heartless towards people causing drama, which may probably not earn me any points but oh well. If any, it makes me laugh because it's so stupid and it wakes up the troll inside of me. =w=
I tend to say pretty crude stuff. Such as my friend who was all emojang and Q.Qing and being really unreasonable and rude, who eventually went "I'll just quit your guild no one likes me here anyway." Like what? You were the one PMSing out on everyone, just apologize, we are all laid back here so get over it since we already are. LOL
To me that type of thing, comes off as threatening almost to leave if you don't start kissing their ass, sort of like blackmail, and in the end it's just attention whoring in my eyes and after such a display of PMS behavior obviously I am NOT going to tell them how wonderful they are and beg them to stay.
Maybe I am rude for assuming that but I dealt with so many attention whores and Q.Qers who claim they will quit but never ever do, so I am not going to waste my good will on that type of thing. I don't get mad or anything, but the desire within me does wake up to not give them what they want. So I'd respond rather indifferently usually: "Well, apart from you PMSing just now, I do like you, but if you wanna quit be my guest, I ain't stopping you."
Some friends of mine have issues with other players due to past events, so sometimes some of those people when they run into them, start to insult them and stuff. (To the point where they could easily get suspended if someone chose to report it) My friends get all worked up though so I always tell them to chill and let me handle it, so then I just start to either apply my wit on them and point out how flawed their insults are etc. without sinking so low as them having to resort to random made up hollow insults and cursing. It makes them mad. Which in returns amuses me. Or sometimes I applied my other technique which is the randomness, one time with this guy who was majorly harassing two of my friends, I started saying that he is so awesome and that I would unfriend my friends cause I took his side, that I love him and that I have dreams about him (Terrifying to him apparently, I am glad he isn't gay/bi else it might have not worked. xD) so he ended up running away while I chased him yelling; Come back my love!
Needless to say..Don't get why my friends don't just blacklist those people if they manage to piss them off so much (masochists?) but hey..at least due to this I got to have some fun. I love silly drama since drama usually is just that. A bunch of people getting their panties in a knot over some really trivial matters.
There has one time been issues between to two people in my guild though, which was not just some petty drama. One of the two was upset with the other and gave him the silent treatment. I didn't get why they couldn't just talk about it though, but I was clearly noticing the tension and the ignored one kept talking to me in private about it since it bothered him (in a normal manner not Q.Qish at all), so I called them both to the guild hall and lead a conversation with them, at first they were hesitant but with my reasoning and making clear we were doing this to solve things, not to fight and to refrain from making accusations, they eventually talked, and that solved things between them! It was great. And the ignored one was surprised I was capable of doing that and actually seemed to care for a change. (LMAO clearly people don't think I have a heart, even good friend.)
I told him I do care about all my friends, I just don't care about displays of petty drama. Just because when I tell a friend to stop PMSing doesn't mean I don't care for them. I just am not going to condone that type of behavior by petting them on the head and saying: Aw poor thing, when they act so stupid.
Besides the case here was not petty drama, it was a serious issue, and they were just giving other the silent treatment which clearly made it awkward for everyone else too. It wasn't something that was easily put to an end by saying something crude such as: I don't care, get over it. So I had to put in more effort, which was well worth it too. I don't mind putting in effort, if it is worth it.
There is some more but this is already a far too long post. xD What can I say? I guess I like talking about drama. Ah, life would be so boring without it, no? :lol:
Mimichikun wrote on 2015-04-01 18:22
Quote from rangero;1269150:
Usually when there is a guild that says: "No Drama" I've noticed that those guilds have the most drama, it's almost like... reverse psychology.
:cheer:
^^^^ hahahaha. on point.
EndlessDreams wrote on 2015-04-02 00:11
My guild has absolutely no drama. Barely even people talking or logging on either!
Cookiebunny wrote on 2015-04-02 04:18
Quote from EndlessDreams;1269754:
My guild has absolutely no drama. Barely even people talking or logging on either!
^Best guild, 10/10.
I myself actually haven't heard about drama ensuing in guilds that explicitly state they don't want drama in their descriptions, so I can't relate with any anecdotes in that aspect. ; u ; However, I think in any big guild, problems are bound to occur (based off my own experience with running a 200+ guild). The drama comes from not handling those problems maturely, not from a jinx. uuu:
KingFintchz wrote on 2015-04-02 04:20
Quote from alwmiioktm;1269192:
Well its just a fact of life some people don't get along, while you could handle it in a way that is more mature than a 12 year old, sometimes conflict is unavoidable. If you want to have synergy and keep a guild together you have to be unbiased. Even in the professional world things wont always work well together, that doesn't necessarily mean they're immature. If someone is though and refuses to cooperate, you can blacklist and kick from guild.
I agree with alwmasdoij#E*@h, While maturity is a key part in drama driven situations, its not always the maturity of someone who causes discrepancy among two or more individuals. People will, like awl#$)*fhdsktm says, not get along and that's only natural. There will be often times when people are stuck in their ways and the way they think about and handle a situation is based solely off their unchangeable perspective. It's similar to two people arguing about different (religious) beliefs, its pointless and often times neither side is going to
"transition" based off what the other saying. Does that then make them, or one of them more mature/immature than the other for not believing in another religion?