Which Reforge to go with?

• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-03 20:31
  Currently, my Bohemian hat has a lv 18 Crisis Radius Act 6 reforge, but I was wondering if I should re-roll for a Crash Shot Fragment Range lv 15+ (or a lv 18+ WoTG duration if I happen to get that first)?
  
  Radius is useful for mob control, but I don't know.
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2015-05-03 20:36
  Go with whichever one you'd use more. Or get another bohemian hat to r1 ... I'd probably do the 2nd if I somehow obtained the resources to do so again
• Jake wrote on 2015-05-03 20:37
  Casting my vote for final hit cooldown reduction
• Zekkii wrote on 2015-05-03 20:49
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  Seriously just try out all the reforges you get that you think are remotely good.
• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-03 20:50
  @Kazuma Touma: Eh, that's the thing. I feel like I would use both CS and Radius equally...although that 2nd bohemian isn't a bad idea. I'll consider that depending on how many reforges I have left extra. Does the CS range help drastically?
  
  @Jake: If I wanted that I probably wouldn't have sold my lv 18 FH CD Oblivion Dex hat oops. Totally worth the 28m though :D.
  
  Edit: @Zekkii: If I had an extra 100 reforges, I would definitely do that haha. The extra radius is useful, but I have yet to try a CS range reforge. Unfortunately, my reforges at the moment are exclusively only for a future weapon I'm making gah. Maybe one day.
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2015-05-03 20:56

  Quote from spirit2roam;1273554:

  @Kazuma Touma: Eh, that's the thing. I feel like I would use both CS and Radius equally...although that 2nd bohemian isn't a bad idea. I'll consider that depending on how many reforges I have left extra. Does the CS range help drastically?
  
  @Jake: If I wanted that I probably wouldn't have sold my lv 18 FH CD Oblivion Dex hat oops. Totally worth the 28m though :D.
  
  Edit: @Zekkii: If I had an extra 100 reforges, I would definitely do that haha. The extra radius is useful, but I have yet to try a CS range reforge. Unfortunately, my reforges at the moment are exclusively only for a future weapon I'm making gah. Maybe one day.

  
  
  CS range is amaaaazing, probably my favorite non-weapon reforge for range lol. I like it more than crisis radius but I hardly use puppets so that's my reason
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-05-03 21:02

  Quote from spirit2roam;1273554:

  @Kazuma Touma: Eh, that's the thing. I feel like I would use both CS and Radius equally...although that 2nd bohemian isn't a bad idea. I'll consider that depending on how many reforges I have left extra. Does the CS range help drastically?
  
  @Jake: If I wanted that I probably wouldn't have sold my lv 18 FH CD Oblivion Dex hat oops. Totally worth the 28m though :D.
  
  Edit: @Zekkii: If I had an extra 100 reforges, I would definitely do that haha. The extra radius is useful, but I have yet to try a CS range reforge. Unfortunately, my reforges at the moment are exclusively only for a future weapon I'm making gah. Maybe one day.

  
  
  Reference: Useful Reforges
  
  [SIZE="1"]Note: Red items are target reforges, others qualify as acceptable doubles/triples
  * Nothing highlighted? Unless it's your "primary talent" the item doesn't need to be reforged.
  * Invest in other equipment, if at all.[/SIZE]
  
  [SIZE="5"]---Weapons---[/SIZE]
  
  Ranged Weapon:
  Ice/Fire/Lightning
  Effective Range
  Support Shot Damage
  
  Melee Weapon:
  Ice/Fire/Lightning
  Smash Damage
  
  Fire Wand:
  Firebolt Max Damage
  Magic Attack
  Casting Speed
  
  Ice Wand:
  Magic Attack
  Blaze Explosion Damage
  Ice Spear Max Damage
  
  Staff:
  Magic Attack
  Hail Storm Max Damage
  Ice Spear Max Damage
  Thunder Max Damage
  
  Cylinders:
  Rain Casting Cloud Duration
  
  Knuckles
  Ice/Fire/Lightning
  
  Instrument:
  Playing Instrument Effect
  Musical Knowledge Normal Performance Effect
  
  Control Bars:
  Act 7: Climactic Crash Damage Magnification
  
  Dual Guns:
  Dual Gun Maximum Damage
  
  Shurikens:
  Kunai Storm Attack Range
  Shadow Bind Duration
  Sakura Abyss Attack Range
  
  [SIZE="5"]---Equipment---[/SIZE]
  
  Head:
  Charge Able to charge without shields
  Crash Shot Max Fragment Range
  Lance Charge Cooldown Decreased
  Final Hit Cooldown Decreased
  Act 6: Crisis Radius
  Shock Effect Duration
  Flame Burst Duration
  
  Body:
  Crash Shot Max Fragments
  Blaze Explosion Radius
  Rain Casting Water Cannon Damage
  Final Hit Duration
  Evasion Total Cooldown Limit
  Assault Slash Damage
  Hail Storm Range
  Ice Spear Attack Radius
  
  Gloves:
  Crash Shot Fragment Damage
  Magnum Shot Damage
  Lance Charge Charge Damage
  Blaze Damage
  Chain Mastery Damage
  Mana Shield Damage Reduction Rate
  Ice Spear Explosion Range
  Flame Burst Attack Range
  
  Shoes:
  Rain Casting Cooldown Decreased
  Assault Slash Attack Distance
  Clay Alchemy Efficiency
  Drop Kick Damage
  Shooting Rush Damage
  Wind Blast Range
  
  Accessories:
  Charge Able to charge without shields
  Battlefield Overture Duration
  Healing HP Recovery
  Attack Speed
  Smash Damage
  Magic Attack
• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-03 21:03

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1273555:

  CS range is amaaaazing, probably my favorite non-weapon reforge for range lol. I like it more than crisis radius but I hardly use puppets so that's my reason

  
  
  My current situation calls for using Puppetry and Archery sort of equally, but with the fact I literally am investing 20x more money into archery than puppetry it made me consider re-rolling the puppetry reforge. Maybe I'll bother some friends to see if they have a CS range hat I can borrow. :(
  
  @Kaeporo: Puppetry is less of a main talent than Archery for sure though...so you think I should just go for the CS Range Reforge since making another R1 Oblivion Dex Bohemian Hat might be too costly?
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-05-03 21:26

  Quote from Kaeporo;1273556:

  Reference: Useful Reforges

  
  
  Some things probably need updating by now.
  
  Like for ranged weapons, ER is just as important as ele reforge or more so since all the endgame and future content is ele immune.
  Or just element reforge in general for the skillsets that use it is pretty much dead at this point, since non-ele reliant AOE skillsets are faster for 2006 content and everything else is ele immune. Hitting high on raccoons and barriers is fun and all, but it won't make you any more money or let you run real content faster.
  
  For fire wand, casting speed is the ONLY reforge that matters, everything else is a bonus or secondary.
  
  Shuriken max damage reforge gets buffed in ninja update and the other ninja reforges can be obtained in other items anyway so it would become as important to get that on a shuriken as it is to get dual gun max damage on a gun.
  
  The way people use blaze nowadays doesn't require explosion radius, if anyone even still uses blaze. BFO duration reforge is a pretty damn good hybrid reforge and super easy to get.
  
  Kunai storm range is probably the reforge to aim for on gloves if you do not main a skillset that has a glove damage reforge.
  
  Accessories is pretty much w/e the person wants since it pulls all sorts of skill damage so there's no real "recommended" reforge it's all about specialization.
• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-03 22:50
  @Oberynn: This is off topic, but reading that effective range could potentially be more effective for future game content caught my eye. I know ideally that one would want EF and Elemental on the same bow, but if could only choose one, would EF be better on the long run?
• Jake wrote on 2015-05-03 23:00

  Quote from spirit2roam;1273566:

  @Oberynn: This is off topic, but reading that effective range could potentially be more effective for future game content caught my eye. I know ideally that one would want EF and Elemental on the same bow, but if could only choose one, would EF be better on the long run?

  
  
  Do you care more about:
  
  -Hitting high numbers on raccoons and barrier spikes
  -Clearing NPC/daily shadow missions/dungeons faster with archery when you could just use blaze/final hit/bash/puppetry
  
  or
  
  -Being able to be far as fuck away and not die
  -Being able to pull off a lot more dps the closer you are to an enemy compared to a non effective range reforged bow (typically in end game/ele immune content)
  -Have a useful bow reforge for girgash and alban knight dunegon (especially alban knight)
  -Effectively missing less due to aim meter winding up more quickly
  
  edit: An important note, if you don't have a solid team to run any of this stuff with then there's really no point in getting an effective range bow in my opinion. Whether you do or don't, I've no idea.
• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-03 23:07

  Quote from Jake;1273568:

  Do you care more about:
  
  -Hitting high numbers on raccoons and barrier spikes
  -Clearing NPC/daily shadow missions/dungeons faster with archery when you could just use blaze/final hit/bash/puppetry
  
  or
  
  -Being able to be far as fuck away and not die
  -Being able to pull off a lot more dps the closer you are to an enemy compared to a non effective range reforged bow (typically in end game/ele immune content)
  -Have a useful bow reforge for girgash and alban knight dunegon (especially alban knight)
  -Effectively missing less due to aim meter winding up more quickly

  
  
  Huh, probably the latter considering one of my end game hybrids for me will include guns and archery. I like the idea of being able to charge up a crash shot freaking fast after a shooting rush. For that matter, I'll probably go effective range since eventually, there'll probably be a point where I can 1-shot HM monsters without elemental. Thanks.
  
  [S]Maaaaybe I should go for that CS range reforge[/S]
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2015-05-04 00:38
  if ur mostly just gonna run endgame content, i'm sure ER is better, but if regular SMs are still pretty common on your list, ele's still good. also, i dont think there will be much more content wise for combat after the renovations, nexon is going to be putting out some new games that will probably take up most of their attention in the next couple of years or so.
• spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-04 00:53

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1273574:

  if ur mostly just gonna run endgame content, i'm sure ER is better, but if regular SMs are still pretty common on your list, ele's still good. also, i dont think there will be much more content wise for combat after the renovations, nexon is going to be putting out some new games that will probably take up most of their attention in the next couple of years or so.

  
  
  I was thinking with SMs if my bow isn't dong the damage I want, I could just pull out other weapons maybe. Or, I figured if I could clear mobs out quickly with ER, then it'll be ok. That last statement though, eh probably true.
  
  Edit: Although in the rare event I get both Elemental and ER eh...should I be aiming for ele 3+ and ER 10+?
  
  2nd Edit @Jake: Eh, it should be ok. The guild I recently join loves to do all that raiding stuff, maybe.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-05-04 01:41
  Considering your stats right now... I'd definitely say that elemental reforge will treat you better for now.
  
  The reforge will always come down to preferences, and as for my preference, I still prefer/prioritize elemental reforge over effective range because:
  
  1. Many things I run still get affected by the reforge.
  2. Even in more end game contents (Lord, Alban, etc), there are still good number of mobs that get affected by elemental reforge.
  3. I feel perfectly fine with my aiming rate.
  4. Easier MA soloing.
  
  Even in the case of Crash Shot + Shooting Rush, I see elemental reforge as the better choice most of the time, because you will be using the combo against mostly mobs that are still getting affected by the reforge. I'd say that getting elemental reforge for now is a decent choice, and worry about more end game stuff later.