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Mario wrote on 2010-09-04 05:53
Human Range have amazing speed and accuracy as you all know.
On the other hand, elf range misses a lot and pointless of shooting fast. D:<
Anybody know why it works like this? Any solution to improve elf range like human's?
/I quited dueling people and barely turn elf vs giant on because of this.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-09-04 05:58
Lrn2Magnum baka.
And elf range doesn't work in duels because you can't aim while stunned so it just loses no matter what.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-04 07:36
Human range is outclassed by Elven range when strictly comparing damage per second in PVE. On the other hand, Human range is generally preferred when dueling. Regardless, elven range is definitely more versatile.
Damage per second (minus refire)
Human: Magnum Shot: 333%, Arrow Revolver: 490%
Elven: Ranged Attack: 666%, Magnum Shot: 1000%
Accuracy
Human: 300% bonus, 50-100% (AR)
Elven: 200% bonus, 480% bonus (FS)
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-09-04 08:41
Meh, I can abuse N+Ranged in PvP, and control distances. Outside of WM, inside of minimum Charge, and as soon as I knock them back, I can either Magnum + Defend, or Charge in and Smash.
Elf Range is more versatile, Human Ranged is more spammy in duels.
Zero Shots is where Elf Ranged shines.
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Zid wrote on 2010-09-04 15:04
They're both the same to me. If you did nothing but Human Ranged your whole Mabinogi life, you'll still miss a lot like Elves.
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Zeo wrote on 2010-09-04 15:49
Reasons I didn't go as ranger on Zeo.
Ranged sucks a lot for elves, including Magnum shot. They misses too much for me, and we can't SoG most of the times with elves' ranged.
If I want to use elves ranged, I only uses crossbow for it.
Other than that, I would say human ranged is MUCH MORE BETTER than elves one.
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Cide wrote on 2010-09-04 16:45
Quote from Zeo;146305:
Reasons I didn't go as ranger on Zeo.
Ranged sucks a lot for elves, including Magnum shot. They misses too much for me, and we can't SoG most of the times with elves' ranged.
If I want to use elves ranged, I only uses crossbow for it.
Other than that, I would say human ranged is MUCH MORE BETTER than elves one.
you have no idea how to elfrange.
not surprising.
THAT SAID i don't touch pvp, i'm bad at it, so i'm almost exclusively pve. elf range, while it misses a lot (pretty easy to still not get hit unless you're zero-shooting and miss), has been pretty fab for me~~
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Piko wrote on 2010-09-04 16:47
PvP is pointless E-Peen competitions, so who gives a crap as to which race is better. Elves are better PvE in ranged damage wise, which is what matters when fighting difficult boss battles. Humans have the upper hand in PvE when it comes to multi aggro using ranged due to Arrow Revolver.
If a skilled player actually knew what the hell he was doing, he can annihilate a boss monster using Elf Ranged at rank 1 and etc. much faster than a Human using ranged.
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Shiko wrote on 2010-09-04 18:17
Quote from Pikablu;146324:
PvP is pointless E-Peen competitions, so who gives a crap as to which race is better. Elves are better PvE in ranged damage wise, which is what matters when fighting difficult boss battles. Humans have the upper hand in PvE when it comes to multi aggro using ranged due to Arrow Revolver.
If a skilled player actually knew what the hell he was doing, he can annihilate a boss monster using Elf Ranged at rank 1 and etc. much faster than a Human using ranged.
I agree, also a good thing of note is that elves can fire 2 magnums before a monster starts attacking. Ride around on a Thorough whenever you grind and zero shot mag 2 times -> Range till knocked down -> Mag. PVE only. You should rarely miss unless you shoot too early. lol
For pvp depending on your connection you can shoot faster then R1 AR(depending on their connection/bow) if you know when to shoot.