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spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-18 22:39
My dream of R6 Celtic Royal Knight swords is a very far fetched and unrealistic dream (seeing as my guild is not going to spam as much as I thought as well as me being just as lazy).
So, was wondering if I should go for the following:
- Shadow Hunter Spike Rainbow Beam
- Pilgrim Swords
- Demonic Swords
In a situation where I'm not optimizing FH and Bash isn't my main attack would these be good alternatives to a CRK?
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alwmiioktm wrote on 2015-05-19 05:36
I'd personally put Demonic swords a bit higher up, Pilgrims yea if you want to invest in rolls that have a better chance to get stats better than a base grade demonic on top of r6'ing. Demonics are much easier to step 6 price wise. If you just want something to use the skills with and use final hit with very fast hit rate but lower damage then just do beams. I made two r6 demonics and I'm not having any regrets. If having money ain't everything then go make some crazy r6 pilgrims for final hit, or demonics for overall cost/ efficiency
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Oberynn wrote on 2015-05-19 05:53
For final hit:
Demonic + att speed > CRK > Anything else "Fast".
For bash:
CRK > Anything.
CRK is the best balance of the two skills, but if that's out of your reach you can go demonic + att speed for best final hit and still decent bash.
If you have no attack speed, then pilgrim or beam whichever you prefer is preferable to demonic.
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spirit2roam wrote on 2015-05-19 08:32
I see. I'm probably going to do a bit more researching around myself to see what sword would suit me best. Thanks guys for your input.
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callback wrote on 2015-05-19 13:59
How much is CRK's crit damage bonus? Is it really not enough to make it a better FH set?
Also, where is the data saying attack speed doesn't work on fast swords? And how do Phoenix Feather Swords compare DPS-wise to others with their very fast speed?
Will Alban Training Grounds have a way to get more seal chains? Possibly in the hidden palace of warrior? I still only have 2.
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Oberynn wrote on 2015-05-19 15:36
1. The crit bonus is 7%. So for final hit, your crits will be 299% instead of 292% at r6. For skills (bash, smash, etc) you will do 341% crits instead of 334% at r6. Demonics with attack speed are about 5% faster than CRK, so it's a question of 5% faster hits vs a few more max and slightly stronger crits.
2. The data is: record yourself and count the number of hits you do with att. speed on Fast with and without and you'll see that it doesn't. As for phoenix sword, I don't have one to test but it has no special upgrades and the damage/cost isn't nearly as good as enchanted beam's so probably doesn't matter.
3. Probably better to ask that in the foreign content section.
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ironwoman wrote on 2015-05-19 16:50
As for phoenix sword, the DPS is about the same as beams, apparently.
Interestingly enough, battle sword outdamages in Fh, compred to beam sword. But the downside is that it's not a good bash weapon and will also lose its effectiveness with capped strength.