Cold es: is it really worth it?

• abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-05 21:57
  Cold Es is from Enemy Behind HM, which people don't run that much so there isn't a set market (at least in alexina. don't talk about other servers because this thread is for helping me decide if cold es is worth it).
  
  It is +7max dmg while diamond/corundum is +6max dmg.
  
  I know how important 1max dmg could be in the end game, but I'm still a nib. xP
  
  So would diamond/corundum gladiator hat be better than cold gladiator hat if i didn't care much about that one dmg?
  
  lol kinda realized the answer is obvious.
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-09-05 22:32
  The fact that Corundum reduces min at low exploration and reduces luck often steers people away from it. Not to mention it usually comes from an item that needs to be burned.
  
  Also consider this, 1 damage is 5 smash damage and 25 crit smash damage.
• Zid wrote on 2010-09-05 22:53
  The fact that it boost min dmg and has no negatives is good.
  
  Plus, consider 2h Smash for 6 extra dmg and Critical for 30 extra.
• Justified wrote on 2010-09-05 22:56

  Quote from Kyouriharu;147137:

  Also consider this, 1 damage is 5 smash damage and 25 crit smash damage.

  
  
  

  Quote from Zid;147152:

  Plus, consider 2h Smash for 6 extra dmg and Critical for 30 extra.

  
  
  5 * 2.5 = 25
  6 * 2.5 = 30
  
  lolwut?
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-05 23:12

  Quote from Justified;147153:

  5 * 2.5 = 25
  6 * 2.5 = 30
  
  lolwut?

  
  
  Haha, math makes us go crazy sometimes. lmao
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-05 23:55
  -min is non-existant cuz i can get high expl easily with r1 thunder
  
  and my char age is 17 so -5luk is rly non-existant.
• Justified wrote on 2010-09-05 23:59

  Quote from abc33kr;147190:

  -min is non-existant cuz i can get high expl easily with r1 thunder
  
  and my char age is 17 so -5luk is rly non-existant.

  
  
  It's convenience. I usually don't explore until the end of my rebirth cycle. As for luck, with Maiz title I don't automatically go into negatives.
  Then again, helmets aren't that great for damage unless you're shooting for Union Gladiator.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-09-06 00:18
  Chances are that you won't notice the damage difference at all.
  
  Or else, every 6 levels or so, you will go "ZOMG, MORE DMG".
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-09-06 02:33

  Quote from Justified;147153:

  5 * 2.5 = 25
  6 * 2.5 = 30
  
  lolwut?

  
  Gimme a break. I don't start school for three weeks ):
  
  

  Quote from EndlessDreams;147198:

  Chances are that you won't notice the damage difference at all.
  
  Or else, every 6 levels or so, you will go "ZOMG, MORE DMG".

  
  
  Actually that's me.... I don't notice it too much but it's there D:
• Archibald wrote on 2010-09-06 02:48
  Why not silver fox? You don't really range and 20 dex isn't a huge deal for most people who don't range. Also your a pally so you get 6 max 2 min with no other negs or reqs.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-06 03:06
  The formula used to determine average critical damage at r1 isn't,
  
  ((max-min)balance+min)2.5
  
  It's actually,
  
  ((max-min)balance+min)(1.5 * max)
  
  FYI
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-06 03:40

  Quote from Archibald;147245:

  Why not silver fox? You don't really range and 20 dex isn't a huge deal for most people who don't range. Also your a pally so you get 6 max 2 min with no other negs or reqs.

  
  
  e.e first silver fox is more expensive than corundum/diamond and i plan to be a ranger someday (reference to my name).
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-06 05:01
  A Rank 9 prefix ES (called Oblivion) is released later in G13.
  
  Can be enchanted on all equipment and has the following effects:
  
  

  HP+8
  If Lv20+, Max Damage+10
  Luck-15

  
  
  Kills your Luck, but it's pretty good damage.
  
  Source.
• Finnea wrote on 2010-09-06 05:03

  Quote from Phunkie;147326:

  A Rank 9 prefix ES (called Oblivion) is released later in G13.
  
  Can be enchanted on all equipment and has the following effects:
  
  
  
  Kills your Luck, but it's pretty good damage.
  
  Source.

  
  
  Not too sure about that. -3% crit is alot in the grand scheme of things.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-06 05:33

  Quote from Finnea;147332:

  Not too sure about that. -3% crit is alot in the grand scheme of things.

  
  
  When you can enchant every equipment with it (for +80 damage, only using this prefix), I doubt that -3% matters much. :P
  
  We still have to see how to obtain it though.