[KR] G20: Door of Sanctuary // 20th of August, 2015

• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 12:54
  That's a question I'm not going to try and answer simply because of time. It's not something you'll complete in a week for sure. Much like the Crusader subskills, you'll chip away at this a little a time. The main reason why it takes so long is the following:
  
  1) You can only talk to an NPC with keywords 3 times an Erinn Day (resets at 6am Erinn time)
  

  
  
  • Note of Reunion (400nx) can bump this to two times a day
    

  
  2) It's random which keyword will raise, not change, or lower affection
  

  
  
  • This can be mitigated by paying 1-3 Lower Beltane Coins (varies on which knight you want info on) with the NPC in the area who will tell you what the first keyword is. After that you're on your own
    
  • Note of Honesty (600nx) will tell you all 3 keywords that will raise affection
    
  • Affection seems to go up by 1% most of the time, and down .3% most of the time
    

  
  3) Training Sessions to train their stats last 36 minutes or longer
  

  
  
  • Scroll of Training Completion makes this end immediately if you use it. Unsure if this will decrease the stat gain though. Not interested in testing that out either.
    
  • You can't raise affection or send them on missions while they are training
    

  
  4) Missions last anywhere from 36 minutes to 10 hours and 19 minutes for Command Level 20 Missions
  

  
  
  • While Knights are out on a mission you cannot interact with them
    

  
  
  From what I can tell, command level 20 is the max you can get and there's about 2-3 missions per command level for a total of roughly 40 - 60 missions. I haven't exactly done a full count yet.
  
  Unsure on max affection level or max stats.
• callback wrote on 2015-08-24 14:35
  On the wand, what's its blaze multiplier? It looks painful enough to maybe count as a combat/savage, it's a freaking flanged mace with a mage gem shoved into it.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 14:37

  Quote from callback;1284871:

  On the wand, what's its blaze multiplier? It looks painful enough to maybe count as a combat/savage, it's a freaking flanged mace with a mage gem shoved into it.

  
  
  Having Teto go through all the new weapons/armour right now and make a more organized concrete post on it. Mainly cause right now the information out there in this thread thus far is incomplete, very shoddy and disorganized. We've been busy checking into G20 mainstream, my knights system, novel books, and the divine link skill to have done this yet.
  
  So now that we got most of the info we can for those things, we've switching gears to get going on that. I would say we should have that info in a day or two.
  
  Keep in mind we only have 2 translators, 2 testers, and 1 data miner on our team who is actively checking this so progress has been slow.
  
  Quick Update: Blaze multipliers is not contained in the data files so we can't data mine it. No special tags for combat wands either. So we'll have to go by the description.
  
  Rough translation: "Ancient Sacred Tri-Bolt wand that was restored. It has the powers of Fire, Lightning and Ice combined in it. Advanced magics are not available, you can see it's powers in the Bolt and Mid Spells used. you can run while using Meditation with this in your hands."
  
  Judging by that alone, I would say no to that.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-08-24 16:46

  Quote from Zeo;1284792:

  Oooh, that is good. At least people will be useful in Girgashiy raids now, finally!
  
  The five subskills for Divine Link are up to level 15 each, I'm assuming, right? So does that mean we'll have 300 level cap for the crusader exp?
  
  Also... Does Crusader level exp get a change in term of curve where you get level faster or does it remain the same?.

  
  
  Reposting this from few pages ago since everyone seem to have missed this question.
  
  If there's no answer to my questions and such yet, that's ok.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 16:50

  Quote from Zeo;1284883:

  Reposting this from few pages ago since everyone seem to have missed this question.
  
  If there's no answer to my questions and such yet, that's ok.

  
  
  I don't think there's an answer to that question as such data is not stored in the files we can mine that I'm aware of. Getting that high of a level would take a long time. Unless you spam Alban Training Grounds to oblivion.
  
  Keep in mind that we have another 5 subskills as of this generation so if a cap was in place it would need to be raised.
  
  So there's now 20 Subskills.
  
  On to another thing I want to point out and that's the assessment of this:
  
  

  Quote from Esileruf;1284579:

  
  Caswyn's/Cardinal's Armor
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/jIUAN/cdc63597f2.png]

  
  
  The male outfit is infinitely worse than the female.
  This is a first.

  
  
  I'd say you are mistaken there. The difference here is color choice. The colors picked in this example isn't very representative of how good it could look imo. At least compared to how it looks when Casweyn wore it
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/jMWrA/22a573d436.png]

  
  
  I think it looks pretty decent. But maybe that's just me *shrug* I think it's the dark blues. I believe with darker colors, this armour will look pretty good than if you were to use brighter more vibrant colors.
  
  It does seem to lack his odd cape though which is a really odd design on closer inspection.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-08-24 17:24

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1284885:

  I don't think there's an answer to that question as such data is not stored in the files we can mine that I'm aware of. Getting that high of a level would take a long time. Unless you spam Alban Training Grounds to oblivion.
  
  Keep in mind that we have another 5 subskills as of this generation so if a cap was in place it would need to be raised.
  
  So there's now 20 Subskills.

  
  
  Yeah, I know we currently have a cap of 225 Crusader level since it's enough to max out all 15 subskills as of now and I know in G20, we get a fourth Crusader skill and their five subskills, so I would hope they uncapped the crusader level up to 300 and change the curve to make the levels easier to get.
  
  As of right now, if you grinded every week to get the maximum crusader exp (includes finishing up weekly, seven daily, and three heroic clear each day), you get up to 225 crusader levels in only two years and that's really ridiculous. I would make it so it would take one and half year to get 300 crusader levels.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 17:38

  Quote from Zeo;1284887:

  Yeah, I know we currently have a cap of 225 Crusader level since it's enough to max out all 15 subskills as of now and I know in G20, we get a fourth Crusader skill and their five subskills, so I would hope they uncapped the crusader level up to 300 and change the curve to make the levels easier to get.
  
  As of right now, if you grinded every week to get the maximum crusader exp (includes finishing up weekly, seven daily, and three heroic clear each day), you get up to 225 crusader levels in only two years and that's really ridiculous. I would make it so it would take one and half year to get 300 crusader levels.

  
  
  All right, I shall check with Teto once they are finished with the weapons/armour but I don't want to be constantly bugging them as we're working them to the bone with all these requests and they need a break honestly.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-08-24 17:54
  You only really need 70 points at any given time for the original skills anyway, maybe a couple more for the new one so does it really matter...
  
  They probably wanted people to give a little more thought to their roles in girgashiy raid than just be able to do everything as they pleased. Besides, it's not like spike subskills count at all for anything ever.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 18:11

  Quote from Rynn;1284890:

  You only really need 70 points at any given time for the original skills anyway, maybe a couple more for the new one so does it really matter...
  
  They probably wanted people to give a little more thought to their roles in girgashiy raid than just be able to do everything as they pleased. Besides, it's not like spike subskills count at all for anything ever.

  
  
  I agree. There really is no point in having all of them maxed at any given point especially if you are going to be one particular role in a raid. It's not like you're going to be doing all 3 at any given time. Frankly I'm more focused on Shield of Trust. I also like being a healer, it's a refreshing role to take.
  
  Divine Link and it's subskills on the other hand, it's useful for EVERYTHING that involves pets. Everyone should rank that shizz. The subskills are super easy to get as well.
  
  Seriously going to drop all the points I have in shield of trust and shuffle them over to divine link when we get this.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-08-24 19:00

  Quote from Esileruf;1284579:

  
  There is no wig either.

  
  
  

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  Maybe Next time you should thorougly check, there is a Wig and it's npc only too.
  
  On another note i'm working on a THOROUGH Information of the Weapons and Armors AVAILABLE TO PLAYERS so please wait up for that ;3
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-08-24 19:02

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  Maybe Next time you should thorougly check, there is a Wig and it's npc only too.

  
  
  

  Quote from Esileruf;1284655:

  Checking back while confirming that there is a 10% magic auto-defense rate for the armors, There IS a wig.
  
  

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  It is NPC defined only as well and coded with a greyscale overlay, notably as the same as Pihne's, heavily desats lighter colors.

  
  
  He already caught his mistake.
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-08-24 20:15

  Quote from Tetosan;1284895:

  [Image: http://puu.sh/jN3iL/06ca5f2145.png]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/jN3Bf/8530127e7a.png]

  
  
  Maybe Next time you should thorougly check, there is a Wig and it's npc only too.
  
  On another note i'm working on a THOROUGH Information of the Weapons and Armors AVAILABLE TO PLAYERS so please wait up for that ;3

  
  
  See post above, and the only things missing to make a full post about them is confirming the shield's enhancement bonuses, though quite likely 5 crit/10 charge/5 dura loss. Otherwise its just taking better pictures than my shoddily done work, which was just made to show how they look for anybody curious. All that's really left to do is put them in the standard format that people are used to from the data compilations here, and find out more data on the materials themselves, I have not in my blundering through the files found the materials' DDS, though I should probably look now.
  
  Also, All of the equipment besides the wig are available to players. I did say for both of the wigs they are NPC defined only, having color mechanics that make them only intended towards a single color.
  
  I don't mean to be critical, but when I've posted just what the items look like, confirmed that the armors are simply reskinned languhiris with a new set enhancement, and 10% magical defense ping, Which the stats being the same as langu could just be guessed from Rixx's post anyways. The KR sim does not show set enhances for any item, so those wont be able to be found out by me or any old joe.
  
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1284885:

  
  On to another thing I want to point out and that's the assessment of this:
  
  
  
  I'd say you are mistaken there. The difference here is color choice. The colors picked in this example isn't very representative of how good it could look imo. At least compared to how it looks when Casweyn wore it
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/jMWrA/22a573d436.png]

  
  
  I think it looks pretty decent. But maybe that's just me *shrug* I think it's the dark blues. I believe with darker colors, this armour will look pretty good than if you were to use brighter more vibrant colors.
  
  It does seem to lack his odd cape though which is a really odd design on closer inspection.

  
  Well, it does look a bit better with darker colors, but I generally am biased when it comes to armors. I have never really cared for the alban knight armors, Pinhe's is a first as its an outfit I've been waiting for since the g19 announcement went out, it being an armor is a bonus, AND that its metallic parts are dyable as well. Every other armor has solid metallic parts, now unless they designed it to not change, then I'm a sad camper and I'll go cry in my corner as my hopes and dreams are crushed. But Its probably aesthetic to the armor. Its meant to work with darker colors it seems, big difference is that the color does not seep through the armor plates.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-08-24 20:28
  Well we do have some data on the materials themselves. Teto managed to get one from one of his missions he sent Kana on.
  
  Teto: then again about the Armors..... Most Materials seem to come from MyKnights Boxes so i'll probably just use those and hope >.< since i'll spend hours and hours making Elsie my Waifu anyways xD
  Kingofrunes: now it's just a matter of figuring out which missions actually gives those boxes
  Teto: well you can BUY them for the coins XD
  Teto: and yeah sometimes from missions idk if that is random tho... i got a Gold Crystal thingy from a Lower of Middle Beltane box Kanna brought back xD
  Kingofrunes: oh and which mission was that?
  Kingofrunes: was that the 33% one you tried randomly
  Kingofrunes: to test the fail?
  Teto: No it was one this morning, then again as said.... Failing doesn't seem to do anything except wasting time and not giving you any rewards
  Kingofrunes: well was referring to the one you tried to fail but succeeded
  Kingofrunes: do you remember which mission it was though?
  Kingofrunes: or did you just randomly pick one
  Teto: She neither ended up in the Hospital i think nor did she lose Affection to me
  Teto: no sadly not
  Kingofrunes: bleh, well at least we confirmed that it comes from this system
  Teto: idk if it was the one i sent her on now, i'll see when i get back from dinner, if it is.... it's one of the longer missions xD
  Kingofrunes: it probably is one of the longer missions
  Teto: things requires about 3 Hours Real Time
  
  Unfournately no recollection on the exact mission, so not exactly sure which mission it was but it's for sure the My Knights Mission. I presume the data you guys are looking for is the exact my knight missions you can get the new materials on?
  
  Would help in fine tuning our testing.
  
  As for a full post, Teto should have all the data we need to satisfy the images/details/upgrades necessary for the new weapon/armour in one clean concise organized post. I'd say it should be ready within the next few hours. It's a time consuming process.
  
  I will try and do a video sometime this week explaining in full detail the My Knights System. I also plan on doing the Divine Link video today as I'm sure a lot of people want to see that in action.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-08-24 20:35

  Quote from Zeo;1284883:

  Reposting this from few pages ago since everyone seem to have missed this question.
  
  If there's no answer to my questions and such yet, that's ok.

  
  
  1. They all go to 15 Yes, The Level Cap, if there is one wasn't raised as far as i see, at least no updated EXP Table was in the files.
  
  2. As there's no updated Divine EXP File i assume if it's located in the pack it wasn't raised at all. but that heavily depends on this being stored Client-Side and not Server-Sided so i could be wrong.
  
  
  Also the Materials come from the Beltane Boxes which come in Lower, Middle and Higher Tier. They can also be bought for Beltane Coins of the appropriate Tier from the Gate-Guy. They just also come from Missions you send your Trainees on every now and then, if it's random or a specific mission... idk.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-08-24 20:41

  Quote from Darkboy132:

  1. Judgement Blade
  - Area of effect has been increased.

  
  
  Did this really happen? I don't see anything in Kapra's data that implies such.
  
  [quote]3. Celestial Spike
  - Upon successful usage, target now aggros on caster.

  
  
  Is this supposed to be the other way around, in that it doesn't attract aggro? Celestial Spike already does what's listed here.[/quote]
  
  

  Quote from Slayerj;1284820:

  I think this is a fix, because how it currently works is the SECOND you start to use it on a target, long before it's even landed, the target will agro and rush you. I believe what they mean by this is it will wait for the skill to actually land first. At least I hope that's what they mean.

  
  
  I'd like to repost my questions as well, in case it was missed.