Golem Efficiency

• Username wrote on 2010-09-06 06:17
  So, i've been thinking more and more about this golem skill.
  With my rank 2 Alchemy mastery and R9 golem, this was a result of my work:
  
  

  [Image: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9109/mabinogi20100906002.jpg]

  
  
  Now, how efficient is a golem in hard missions, will it 1-2hit pretty well?
  List what i should do, and not do as an alchemist using a golem.
  8(
  (Might have spelt efficiency wrong >>;?)
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-06 06:33
  Alchemist is a weird class to play. You drain multiple resources in combat yet your skills focus heavily on single-target DPS. Alchemy doesn't rely on stat bonuses but offers little stats in return.
  
  Summon golem is a sort of backup skill. While it can mow down huge numbers of mobs, you'll either have to buy the crystals, make them yourself (read: expensive/time consuming) or spam stones for golem crystals. The time spent gathering materials could likely be spent better running objectives in a more traditional fashion.
  
  Summoned golems can easily best most players our there. Especially in G13, which adds earth mastery and transmute mastery. You should be able to windmill whole dungeon rooms from the corner.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-09-06 06:49
  You should put your character in a safe location when you summon golem. You should attack with golem, and then switch or something.
  Yes, golem is very strong in hardmode mission. (Especially the Snow Golem)
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-06 06:55

  Quote from Kaeporo;147464:

  Alchemist is a weird class to play. You drain multiple resources in combat yet your skills focus heavily on single-target DPS. Alchemy doesn't rely on stat bonuses but offers little stats in return.
  
  Summon golem is a sort of backup skill. While it can mow down huge numbers of mobs, you'll either have to buy the crystals, make them yourself (read: expensive/time consuming) or spam stones for golem crystals. The time spent gathering materials could likely be spent better running objectives in a more traditional fashion.
  
  Summoned golems can easily best most players our there. Especially in G13, which adds earth mastery and transmute mastery. You should be able to windmill whole dungeon rooms from the corner.

  
  
  Transmute Mastery does not affect Summon Golem. It affects Synthesis and Fragmentation (and increases the ranks of created crystals from Mana Crystallization).
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-06 07:23

  Quote from Phunkie;147474:

  Transmute Mastery does not affect Summon Golem. It affects Synthesis and Fragmentation (and increases the ranks of created crystals from Mana Crystallization).

  
  
  Thanks for setting me straight.
• hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-09-06 14:37
  stone golems are the most efficient if you wanna spam golem summon on non boss monsters, they do ciar adv pretty well
• Zid wrote on 2010-09-06 14:49
  Honestly, Golem Summoning is tough to use as a solo player. It works best with party plays, however not higher-up party play unless you plan it out. Stand outside of a door/wall and just send your Golem inside while someone else opens the chest/hits the orb.
  
  Remember, it's a Golem. You're not invincible, so play smart instead of rushing around and pulling off random Windmill.
• KEL331 wrote on 2010-09-08 13:41
  [Image: http://pds19.egloos.com/pds/201009/08/00/a0076200_4c8793d2244e9.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://pds19.egloos.com/pds/201009/09/00/a0076200_4c87a96ad71fe.jpg]

  
  This is how big your golem is when you maxed all golem related skills(including earth alchemy mastery which comes out in G13)
  
  its windmill range is INSANE!!! :XD:
  In real hardcore dungeons(It WILL come out in later G11-13) its gonna have a hard time KO'ing everything in one hit.
  But on those intense stages thats just impossible anyway.
  
  The White Golem & Magic Golem deals MASSIVE damage
  I've seen its critical smash go up to 8k
  
  if you know how to handle a golem ( managing your positioning and etc ) its gonna PAWN your enemies
  
  but like Zid said.
  it's still not invincible, if you spam WM your golem IS going to die
  
  Look at your surroundings! the Golem is STRONG and is VERY TOUGH!
  it can withstand mutiple hits unless its low on HP.
  So try not to spam WM.
  Also when you use an WM, because of its wide-range.
  Your likely to interupt your party members combos or send the monsters to a bad location.
  (ex:sending the archer out of your WM range)
  
  when using WM
  Look around the battleground carefully and make sure the ones with ranged ATKs remain within your attack range.
  The Golem can take a few magnum shots but the golem does not have a ranged atk,
  and you ARE going to be Magnumed/firebolted to death if the archers/mages are too far away for your golem to reach.
  
  also! always watch out for a counter atk!
  the golem is strong, but its ATK is even stronger
  one CA can be LETHAL to your golem!
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-08 14:59
  Wow, amazing!!
  
  Want.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-09-09 03:23
  This is way crazy, but if they are going to tune up difficulty of the game I will welcome this golem skillset.
  
  Golem WM and its size does distract the party a lot.
• KEL331 wrote on 2010-09-09 06:07

  Quote from Yogurticecream;150065:

  This is way crazy, but if they are going to tune up difficulty of the game I will welcome this golem skillset.
  
  Golem WM and its size does distract the party a lot.

  
  
  Yeah thats the most important thing you should keep in mind :<
  the golem is so big that it literally take up all of your screen.
  currently my golem is so huge that with out the help of a 3rd party mod that disinables your camera zoom limitations
  I can't even see where his head is! (BTW is that even a head?)
  all I can see are his legs and arms that are near the ground even in the golem's perspective
  
  and it really irritates your party members alot,
  that is why it is important to learn your positioning
  and another reason why you should'nt spam WM
• Username wrote on 2010-09-09 12:11
  for certian dungeons, Golems are a potential for solo'ing harder level dungeons no? Like i know Rabbie basic is easy, but i tested a my AM r2 Golem w/ RB Golem Summoning, and it was most of the time wming in one hit. With Sulfurs damage much higher, i expect Sulfur golems to be a nice change of pace.
  Id practically take them on Advanced runs, to see how the golem fares.
  
  I practically find Stomp Useless, because its small radius.