Now that Alban event ended and all the training stones expired...

This is an archive of the mabination.com forums which were active from 2010 to 2018. You can not register, post or otherwise interact with the site other than browsing the content for historical purposes. The content is provided as-is, from the moment of the last backup taken of the database in 2019. Image and video embeds are disabled on purpose and represented textually since most of those links are dead.

To view other archive projects go to https://archives.mabination.com

Rynn wrote on 2015-09-14 23:49

Basic C is boring, bad, unrewarding and takes too long for what it is so no one really wants to run it.

Unlike Lord passes, training stones are uncommon and infinitely less convenient to buy from other players.

Unlike Elite/Dungeon passes, there's no cash shop item that will let you avoid the bullshit.

Alban training camp drop rate for stones (difficulty and party limit in particular) is not good enough to make up for the stones you're losing to enter. There's no real community info on what other game content is efficient at obtaining stones either, or if it's even worth doing.

How are you dealing with it? Will alban just go the way of theater missions where the effort required to enter outweighs the benefit of running them?
Qnjo wrote on 2015-09-15 00:24

Given that Divine weapons outclass Celtic ones (for the most part) yes, Alban dungeon is gonna get completely forgotten.
devilcat.gif
Rynn wrote on 2015-09-15 00:43

Quote from Qnjo;1286549:
Given that Divine weapons outclass Celtic ones (for the most part) yes, Alban dungeon is gonna get completely forgotten.
devilcat.gif

They don't, though?
CRK Sword outclasses the Divine 1h.
CR X-bow outclasses the Divine Crossbow.
Tribolt to Divine Tribolt is more of a lateral move than a straight upgrade.
The rest of the weapons don't really overlap... Celtic brand has weapons such as Druid and Guardian Staff that are still the best in their categories while Divine brand has shield, lance and armor set.

That said, alban isn't really about celtic weapons since none of them are exclusive to it. The main reason players run alban is usually the enchant scroll rewards which are the best out of any game content and side bonuses like crusader exp and emblem synthesis.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-15 00:59

Well luckily G20 has a solution for you! Once that comes out, you can use the Coins you get from the My Knights System to buy Alban Training Stone Boxes which give you a random Alban Training Stone.
Iyasenu wrote on 2015-09-15 02:23

Yeah, hopefully those stone boxes will help some.

Though I can just see getting a lot of useless ones like Mercantile EXP, or monster HP 500%. bleh bleh bleh
Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-15 04:22

Dungeon spamming still because I didn't hop onto the celtic train as swift as everyone else.
also
[SPOILER="GAZE NOT INTO THE HEART OF DANKNESS"]
[Image: http://puu.sh/k4GLa/c9525c46fe.png]
[/SPOILER]
Rynn wrote on 2015-09-15 04:37

^whoa.

But yeah, I've heard adv hm dungeons are the hot spot for exp stones. I wonder what the hot spot for red stones is.
Zeo wrote on 2015-09-15 05:24

Quote from Rynn;1286566:
^whoa.

But yeah, I've heard adv hm dungeons are the hot spot for exp stones. I wonder what the hot spot for red stones is.

I do wonder what will be the hot spot for the yellow stones is... It's already a grind even finding a seller willing to sell a Heroic difficulty stone.
delight wrote on 2015-09-18 17:57

Inb4 devCat put all rare stones in upcoming gachapon that replace lord passes.
UnclePine wrote on 2015-09-18 18:09

Do Enchant Expiration Removal Scrolls work on Alban stones?
Ami wrote on 2015-09-19 05:27

I'm rather curious about whether the different sources for stones have different rates or drop pools, apart from the 150% training ones.

JP wiki has some tables about the stones' sources:
[SPOILER="Summary"]
Most stones are listed as dropping in Alban Basic C rank (and potentially higher?), which I've abbreviated as Alb. Elite refers to shadow missions. I've included a bit of info from wiki comments I thought were interesting.

Yellow (difficulty):
Int - Alb
Adv, Hard - Alb/Elite
Heroic - Elite

One comment reports a Heroic stone from Shadow Wiz int, and another reports finding it in Alban Basic C despite the table data not listing missions as a source.

Red (party limit):
4, 6, unlimited - Alb/Elite

Comments: 6-player-stone reported from SCC elite, Unlimited from Conflict elite.

Green (player modifiers):
Talent 150% training - Adv/AdvHardmode dungeons
Everything else - Alb

Comments: Supposedly KR official site said the talent stones are only from Uladh dungeons.

Grey (monster modifiers):
All - Alb

Comments: 2x monster stone doubles miniboss spawns too, but not the alban golem. 70% spawn stone skips minibosses.

Blue (hidden floors):
Anvil, Gem - Alb
Halls - Alb/Elite/AdvHardmode dungeons

Comments: Warrior/mage hall stone drops reported in Enemy Behind elite. AAHM reported to drop warrior hall.
[/SPOILER]

As for how I'm handling it... in theory I should run the daily Alban runs and hope for good rewards. In practice, it fell off my priority list, unless I get stones from shadow missions I guess. Notably a heroic one.

Quote from UnclePine;1286819:
Do Enchant Expiration Removal Scrolls work on Alban stones?

Seems unlikely, but I tested with a gunslinger stone just in case. It didn't show up.
UnclePine wrote on 2015-09-19 05:44

Quote from Ami;1286873:
Seems unlikely, but I tested with a gunslinger stone just in case. It didn't show up.

Good to know, thanks.
ironwoman wrote on 2015-09-22 01:18

Got unlimited stone from an elite mission, still looking for Hard/Heroic.

The best way I can see is going into Alby adv solo [S]and multi client[/S] since you can probably try to find radiant strings too. Otherwise, rundal with party wouldn't be bad.

I guess you could save up those elite passes from the ridiculously spontaneous BD summons and just run the fuck out of those missions to see if you get stones? [S]With mules of course[/S]