Baltane Squire Mission Guide?

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callback wrote on 2016-04-25 14:41

Does anyone have a link to a chart of all missions, their stat requirements, and rewards? KR/JP is fine, I just want to be able to plan out training so the numbers are all that really matter.

Speaking of training, why is it that the lowest tiers are the most efficient use of training points? The +3/-1 if the -1 is on a dump stat you can let sit at 1 for a while, or just the +1 otherwise?

And what IS the point of their specialty? I don't notice any difference when training that one over any others.
Iyasenu wrote on 2016-04-25 16:45

Here's a list of the missions' stat reqs/rewards on JP wiki.
http://mabinogi.wikiwiki.jp/?%BB%E4%A4%CE%B5%B3%BB%CE%C3%C4#q8d8ea90

Lower tiers of training have a better ratio of Training Points spent to stats raise, but at the expense of taking a longer time for the same amount of stats when compared to expensive training.
If you're training, you're not doing missions and getting more Command Levels to get access to better missions so you can get more Command Exp/Training points.

And Specialty is basically a stat that, when a Squire is training that stat will have a chance to "do well" on training for a +50%~+100% gain from that training method.
(e.g. Doing "Unique Weapon" training with Dai, whose specialty is STR there's a chance he'll "do well" on the training and get between +9~+12 Strength, instead of the normal +6)

You can get a similar effect, but for ALL training, if you're training a Squire you chose to Go Out with that week. (as long as they have the heart effect next to their character model, similar to 'the Courteous' 2nd title)

E.g. Dai can do well on INT training "because of going out!", even though his specialty is STR
callback wrote on 2016-04-25 18:11

Great, thanks.

Any idea on what the likeability drop is for going out? And I'm guessing it applies to everyone, not just ones in your unit? I'm probably going to want to save that exclusively for Elsie. Not because I'm concerned for the rest or anything, they're just easier to raise back up through conversation. Or is it done in absolute value instead of percentage so she would show up as losing a lower percent?

Oh, and do you know the likeability drop for training? It might be another side of the efficiency thing if it doesn't scale with the level of training it is.
callback wrote on 2016-04-25 19:09

Thank you for that.

Quick summary: if you aim for just the TP/CXP missions (because who needs the gold/exp ones?), it starts all Div and Dex, then later picks up Int, followed by Luck, Str, and finally Will.

You are 100% free to tank your Str and Will down to 1 with the 15/40 point trainings until you start needing Str at lv14 and Will at 18. The downside is delaying yourself from picking up the one-time-only AP missions, but I don't see that as too big of a deal. You can't really tank anything else because of the immediate need for Div and Dex, and the way stat conflicts work.

Oh, and as for specialty, I can add that I have now seen it in action, and can even confirm what the JP wiki says about a small (10%?) default chance without specialty or going out of a critical success.
ironwoman wrote on 2016-04-25 21:18

Actually, that's not the only problem with the reduction of stats.

When you want to make the G20 equipments, you need those missions for the medals (the all stat 450 ones). Realistically, obviously you can't get all stat 450, but no having a reduction for stats will help with this.
callback wrote on 2016-04-25 22:19

Quote from ironwoman;1295131:
Actually, that's not the only problem with the reduction of stats.

When you want to make the G20 equipments, you need those missions for the medals (the all stat 450 ones). Realistically, obviously you can't get all stat 450, but no having a reduction for stats will help with this.

Well no. As I said, it's ok to tank those 2 stats at first for more efficient quicker training of div and dex. Once you get to the levels when you start needing those other stats, you can start raising them and switch to non-reducing training for your other stats. 1 is the minimum. Keeping them at 1 for a while just means cheaper 3/6 point training for your div and dex until you actually need str and will.

I did miss something tho. Likeability cap quests. You will need to raise all of your stats a certain amount to do these. It may still be more efficient to let the stats drop after you are done with these, tho, but they will require you to train up your dump stats a bit before going into them.
Qnjo wrote on 2016-04-26 00:07

One more thing. Since command level ~10 I've been raking in training points so hard I can't spend them all, even by sticking to highest level methods only.
ironwoman wrote on 2016-04-26 02:31

Quote from callback;1295132:
Well no. As I said, it's ok to tank those 2 stats at first for more efficient quicker training of div and dex. Once you get to the levels when you start needing those other stats, you can start raising them and switch to non-reducing training for your other stats. 1 is the minimum. Keeping them at 1 for a while just means cheaper 3/6 point training for your div and dex until you actually need str and will.

I did miss something tho. Likeability cap quests. You will need to raise all of your stats a certain amount to do these. It may still be more efficient to let the stats drop after you are done with these, tho, but they will require you to train up your dump stats a bit before going into them.

Which actually doesn't take very long to accomplish, and once you're at higher CMD level, you can get training points quicker.

I'd say doing the 55 point ones are worth.
Dragoolfire wrote on 2016-04-26 03:11

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Baltane_Missions

It is a work in progress though.