Iyasenu wrote on 2010-09-14 21:43
nope, basically, i could only do the higher recipes with trans on.
then again, i'm not that strong with melee, so i relied heavily on trans and vales fires.
though, i like to base the difficulty of the missions on the amount of kills per minute I need to get.
the number doesn't vary that much but it seems to make a diff, for me at least.
Cryosite wrote on 2010-09-15 06:37
That is actually a pretty fair way to base the difficulty. You posted before about being able to get 0 ingedients killed and at least make some food to turn in for exp, do you have any numbers on how much needs to be killed to get the 81% needed to get a mission reward out of the recipe? We could use that, and the cooking time to figure out how much needs to be killed per minute... and if you want even more accuracy, how much hp those things have.
Basically, a dungeon like ciar/adv is pretty well known. You can find out about how strong of weapons you need and skill ranks you need in order to consistently WM-kill rooms. I ran the dungeon with TH, and gauged things on how many charges I needed to consistently kill whatever I zapped. Using the hp/number of things needed to kill we can get an idea of how powerful of melee skills you would need to be able to handle a given recipe (from my g11 experience, it seems that magic would be much too hard to really rely on there, and archery would not be as efficient... being able to hit hard with the cooking knife seems pretty key).
If the number of ingredients needing to be killed is pretty high, then it seems that you're going to spend a lot of time using cooking knife/ladle to soften them up. Since you can't easily rely on powerfully upgraded and enchanted equipment, the more damage you can personally do with the cooking tools, the better. So it seems to me cooking dungeon rewards you for having strong melee skills (in addition to high ranks of cooking) but is pretty daunting to someone who has no melee skills (like mages, archers, alchemists, or someone trying to get by with cooking skill alone).
Unfortunately... that also means that if someone has strong melee skills, they can use powerful weapons in normal shadow missions, and kill even more easily. So unless the number of ingredients needing to be killed to pass in a particular recipe is relatively easy... it would be hard to compare for exp to missions like shadow cast city or their method.
Iyasenu wrote on 2010-09-15 21:03
The exp is good enough in the rF mission that if you can do it consistently without trans, it's great exp.
Its 80k in 5 minutes on hardmode.
Won't beat that in many places.
Though for the person who isn't "homg powerful" i'd just do this dungeon if you wanted to buy something...
But i'm currently upping my melee power so that I can do this dungeon for sweet exp xD