Are mule accounts "legit"?

• Kazuni wrote on 2010-09-12 05:49

  Quote from Cathaoir;152869:

  People can have more then one email, legitimately. I currently have a main email that I use for everything, a personal email, and an email from my school.
  
  Also, you can legitimately have more then one account with the exact same information, other then email of course. Who's to say that there isn't someone with the same name and birth date?

  
  
  But you're only legitimately allowed to have one nexon account, period.
• hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-09-12 06:15

  Quote from Kazuni;152901:

  But you're only legitimately allowed to have one nexon account, period.

  
  
  It doesn't explicitly say that in the TOU. In addition, nexon allows you to make accounts for your children/ relatives under 18. They have also acknowledged that different people may have more than one account per household (per IP) during the vindictus cb event posts. They will not ban same IP accounts unless they have definite proof that they are bots or really violating the rules.
  
  saying that people can only have one account would be a moral and not a logical argument as is technically not against the TOU
  
  from a nexon point of view, can you really distinguish and enforce between two people who have nexon accounts and share a place/computer and one person that makes two accounts while traveling around?
• Cathaoir wrote on 2010-09-12 06:41

  Quote from Kazuni;152901:

  But you're only legitimately allowed to have one nexon account, period.

  
  
  The point that i was trying to get across is that Nexon cannot distinguish between between one who has 2 accounts or 2 that have one account each that share the same info. You are able to use the exact same information for two different accounts, other then email and username.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-09-12 07:07

  Quote from Cathaoir;153004:

  The point that i was trying to get across is that Nexon cannot distinguish between between one who has 2 accounts or 2 that have one account each that share the same info. You are able to use the exact same information for two different accounts, other then email and username.

  
  
  Yes, but the question was, "Are mule accounts legit?", and they are not.
  
  You could lie, but in the end, it is not legit.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-09-12 07:14

  Quote from Kazuni;153039:

  Yes, but the question was, "Are mule accounts legit?", and they are not.
  
  You could lie, but in the end, it is not legit.

  
  
  WHO DOESN'T BEND THE RULES SOMETIMES, MANG?
• Cathaoir wrote on 2010-09-12 07:21

  Quote from Kazuni;153039:

  Yes, but the question was, "Are mule accounts legit?", and they are not.
  
  You could lie, but in the end, it is not legit.

  
  
  Well, is using the exact same information for 2 different accounts, other then username and email, considered lying?
  
  Don't get me wrong, I understand that having multiple accounts are against the ToU, but Nexon can't really distinguish if its actually a mule account or not.
• Omegatronic wrote on 2010-09-12 18:45
  I don't see where it is against the TOU to have multiple accounts. For those who claim it is, could you copy/paste the section it is in? Or at least tell me the section so I can read it again? Maybe it won't let you sign up for two accounts with the same personal information? I dunno, I never tried.
  
  Also, even if accounts are limited to one per person, minors between the ages of 13 and 18 can have 2 accounts, as a parent can allow one minor child to use an account instead of themselves. Two parents, two accounts, each parent following the TOU. Technically, the TOU says parent or legal guardian, so in some situations, that could be even more than two if the parents are not the legal guardians.
• woohoohelloppl wrote on 2010-09-12 19:13

  Quote from Kazuni;152486:

  Except you're only supposed to have one email.

  
  
  You can just use Gmail for all your accounts. If my e-mail is [email][email protected][/email], I can just add a period in between(i.e. [email][email protected][/email], [email protected], [email][email protected][/email], etc.) It will still send e-mails to [email][email protected][/email].
  
  I've read the TOS several times and there was nothing about multiple accounts. As for same personal info, it is possible. I do it all the time.
• Justified wrote on 2010-09-12 20:08
  Multiple e-mails is not against the ToS. It has nothing to do with Nexon, so why would they care?
  
  Having a second account, in itself, is not against the ToS. But, the only reason you would use a second account would be to get something that you'd normally have to pay for - for free.
  
  i.e.
  You want a personal shop, but don't want to pay for service.
  You want more characters, but don't want to pay for character cards.
  You want more storage space, but you don't want to pay for extra storage bags.
  
  Exploiting accounts for freebies aimed at starting off beginning players.
• sakraycore wrote on 2010-09-12 20:12
  mule accounts are great for exploiting the mail system
• Omegatronic wrote on 2010-09-12 20:26

  Quote from Justified;153290:

  
  You want more characters, but don't want to pay for character cards.
  You want more storage space, but you don't want to pay for extra storage bags.
  

  
  
  What if you have 22 characters and 58 pets on your account (read: can't add any more cards), and pay for service and still need more room to store stuff like a pack rat?
• Justified wrote on 2010-09-12 20:30

  Quote from Omegatronic;153319:

  What if you have 22 characters and 58 pets on your account (read: can't add any more cards), and pay for service and still need more room to store stuff like a pack rat?

  
  
  You're still circumnavigating limitations placed on your account.
  Thus - something you're not intended to have the ability to do.
  
  Is it against the ToS? Yes.
  Do we/they care? Not really.
  
  As said, ToS is just an escape plan for the company in case something goes wrong.
• Omegatronic wrote on 2010-09-12 22:20

  Quote from Justified;153327:

  You're still circumnavigating limitations placed on your account.
  Thus - something you're not intended to have the ability to do.

  
  
  If it is against the TOU, I agree. The TOU will limit the amount of money in Nexon's botom line.
  
  But...
  
  

  Quote from Justified;153327:

  Is it against the ToS? Yes.

  
  
  show me where, please.
• Cryosite wrote on 2010-09-13 08:12
  Just read through the whole thing myself, out of curiosity.
  
  You are required to give accurate information about yourself. You can do so with multiple accounts, giving the same information about yourself... so you don't run into any problems there. As long as you own the different email addresses you use for each account, you're still following the rules.
  
  Nowhere in the entire document does it state in any way shape or form that you can only make one account. The only thing that comes even remotely close, is saying that you're not allowed to let other people use your accounts, except for one of your minor children/wards (which just means you can't let multiple of your kids use the same account, you'd have to make different accounts for each of them). And when you think about it... this provision specifically allows you to create multiple accounts. As long as no one else (except your kid(s) use them.
  
  So to answer the OP, yes. Perfectly legit.
  
  

  Quote from Justified:

  You're still circumnavigating limitations placed on your account.
  Thus - something you're not intended to have the ability to do.

  
  
  Who are you to determine if we are or are not intended to have this ability?
  
  Pets and additional characters are all accessible from the same account login. Pets in particular are readily accessible just about anywhere (except rafting/ballooning/certain dungeons) as long as they have summon time left. Additional characters can be quickly logged onto and items can be transferred between them easily with pets, or with service the bank.
  
  A mule character on a separate account is far less convenient in terms of accessing and transferring items. The mailbox costs gold for most items, and is limited to 10 items for the most part (just try transferring 100 stacks of cobwebs through the mail, and tell me it's convenient). In order to retrieve items, or send more than 10 items you have to log out of one account completely and log into another (which may interfere with things like dungeons or shops you might have open).
  
  Further, it is not against the eula in any way to create an account, never level your character(s) on that account, and enjoy free service forever. There are no requirements that you log in any specific amount of time, or that you log in a certain number of times per day/week/month/year/whatever. And there is nothing against the rules about recieving items in the mail or sending items in the mail to or from anyone. Even other accounts you may have.
• Justified wrote on 2010-09-13 15:08

  Quote from Omegatronic;153491:

  show me where, please.

  
  
  

  Quote from Cryosite;153927:

  Who are you to determine if we are or are not intended to have this ability?

  
  
  The ability to have free characters and service?
  
  I don't see free "new character" cards in the cash shop.
  I don't see free "premium service" in the cash shop.
  
  Thus, it's obvious we're not intended to have unlimited characters, or free beginner service. If they wanted to let us have those things, then they would provide it for us. Instead, there is a price tag on these things and they are available for us to buy.
  
  

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  Exploit errors in design, features which are not documented and/or bugs to gain access that would otherwise not be available or to obtain any competitive advantage;

  
  
  Access that would otherwise not be available - Unlimited Characters, Mailbox Storage, Premium Service
  Competitive advantage - Personal Shops
  
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