Which bow?

• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2010-09-15 12:28
  Hey this is my second thread and im wonderin which bow should i use? I have around 115 dex. (yes fail im working on refining right now)
• Arus wrote on 2010-09-15 12:44
  LLB with max damage modifications is generally the best option for beginners. You can also try the composite bow if you value critical and tend to stay close to enemies when you shoot. When you get more dex, you can go for the 153 long bow, which is superior to the LLB in max damage and crit. You have a lot of options when it comes to bows, though, and they can all be useful depending on your needs. Don't feel limited by what I've said. In fact, this guide might be able to help you figure out what's best for you.
• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2010-09-15 13:10
  eh im total round 400... im gonna choose 190 path for LLb and ty for the guide though i already read it in mabiguru lols just not that carefully xD
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-15 14:05
  It doesn't matter too much at your level. Leather long bows are usually pretty reliable. At some point you should consider switching from upgraded/enchanted weapons to either a leather long bow, ring bow or wing bow.
• Richard wrote on 2010-09-15 20:14
  Does egoing a bow increase its range? Some people say things that hint that it does, but I never really read it anywhere. I prefer upgraded dual swords over an upgraded sword and an ego sword, so I was considering a bow as an ego. But then again, I've never had a spirit weapon, so I don't really know what it'd be like to have an ego sword.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-09-15 20:15

  Quote from Richard;156722:

  Does egoing a bow increase its range? Some people say things that hint that it does, but I never really read it anywhere. I prefer upgraded dual swords over an upgraded sword and an ego sword, so I was considering a bow as an ego. But then again, I've never had a spirit weapon, so I don't really know what it'd be like to have an ego sword.

  
  
  They get 500 extra range methinks.
• wolfram wrote on 2010-09-15 20:39

  Quote from Shirayuki;156723:

  They get 500 extra range methinks.

  
  
  the extra range is dependent on which bow is egoed.
  
  it can range from 200-600 extra range
• Yanm wrote on 2010-09-15 20:58

  Quote from Arus;156466:

  LLB with max damage modifications is generally the best option for beginners. You can also try the composite bow if you value critical and tend to stay close to enemies when you shoot. When you get more dex, you can go for the 153 long bow, which is superior to the LLB in max damage and crit. You have a lot of options when it comes to bows, though, and they can all be useful depending on your needs. Don't feel limited by what I've said. In fact, this guide might be able to help you figure out what's best for you.

  
  
  Actually....someone discovered a new upgrade path for the Long Bow. It's the 144 path on the wiki. It's the highest crit path, and compared to 153 path, it has a bit more balance, 6% more crit, and 5 less max. Anyway, what Arus said about the LLB is true. It's probably the best bow for beginners. Later on, you'd want to get the Long Bow that I mentioned, for that good blend of max and crit. Although...right now, you could technically get a Composite Bow and you should be able to use that effectively.
  @Richard, it mostly depends on what bow is egoed. A LLB get's 500 range, for a total of 2500. Ring Bow's range goes from 1800 to 2400, Wing Bow from 2000-2600, Crossbow from 1500-2000, Guardian Bow from 1700-2200, Composite Bow from 1700-1900. Also, an ego sword and upgraded sword would be much better than two upgraded swords. But you've never had an ego before. You'd have to feed it a lot of items to make it as strong as an upgraded weapon.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-09-16 10:00

  Quote from Yanm;156761:

  Actually....someone discovered a new upgrade path for the Long Bow. It's the 144 path on the wiki. It's the highest crit path, and compared to 153 path, it has a bit more balance, 6% more crit, and 5 less max. Anyway, what Arus said about the LLB is true. It's probably the best bow for beginners. Later on, you'd want to get the Long Bow that I mentioned, for that good blend of max and crit. Although...right now, you could technically get a Composite Bow and you should be able to use that effectively.
  @Richard, it mostly depends on what bow is egoed. A LLB get's 500 range, for a total of 2500. Ring Bow's range goes from 1800 to 2400, Wing Bow from 2000-2600, Crossbow from 1500-2000, Guardian Bow from 1700-2200, Composite Bow from 1700-1900. Also, an ego sword and upgraded sword would be much better than two upgraded swords. But you've never had an ego before. You'd have to feed it a lot of items to make it as strong as an upgraded weapon.

  
  
  The JP wiki states that Spirit Crossbow's have 1800 range. Where did you get that info?
  
  IMO, Spirit Two-handed swords are more useful than duel upgraded/ego swords unless you can get yourself a Sword of Elsinore. The decreased hit count/speed results in much greater skill stun while the greater smash multiplier becomes more important with the advent of the new G13 mastery skills.
  
  As far as spirit ranged weapons are concerned,
  
  Wing Bow (149 ADACT, 2600 range, Fast speed, Slow stun)
  Ring Bow (151 ADACT, 2400 range, Normal speed, Very Slow speed)
  Leather Long Bow (147 ADACT, 2500 range, Slow speed, Slow stun)
  Crossbow (145 ADACT, 1800(2000?) range, Normal speed, Normal stun)
• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2010-09-16 12:28
  im really confused now so which bow????
• Zid wrote on 2010-09-16 15:10
  Leather Long Bow is great for beginners, decent for mid-lvl players.
  
  Guardian Bow is good for beginners if you're poor and can't afford to hold multiple bows at once in your current inventory.
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-09-16 15:26

  Quote from Chinaboy475;157897:

  im really confused now so which bow????

  
  
  Early Game:
  Focus with the Leather Long Bow or Guardian Bow. Nice damage with low dex requirements when upgrade. When upgraded for damage, the Leather Long Bow has the critical to back it up as well as the range, but the Guardian Bow has the durability. However, if you can, find a Ring Bow. It has the highest damage upgraded of any other bow and damage will go a long way when struggling at lower levels and dungeons. I wouldn't consider an ego just yet.
  
  Mid Game:
  I recommend switching to a higher grade, enchanted Composite Bow. They're cheaper than trying to enchant a Leather Long Bow as well as having that critical to boot. But even once you get to your triple digit level, the Leather Long Bow will still be reliable, though possibly not enough. You'll begin seeing that having high critical will be beneficial against meaty enemies. Another option is the Elven Long Bow, it has great range and good critical but the power isn't anything spectacular.
  
  Late Game:
  Once you have 180 or so dex, I recommend switching from the Leather Long Bow to a Long Bow. Don't let the Long Bow's base stats fool you though, it's an excellent weapon when fully upgraded outdamaging and outcriticalling most bows including the Leather Long Bow. But high dex is required to wield it correctly. Besides the Long Bow, the next option is the Elven Short Bow. Though having short range, it's one of the few bows that can critical harder than a Long Bow but still keep damage.
• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2010-09-16 20:55
  in enchanted composite do you mean stamp spike?
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-09-16 22:03
  Yes, Spike. More than often, I see Spike on Composite Bows usually because Stamp Bows are found from Ciar Advanced and Spike from the endchest.
• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2010-09-17 01:50
  IM probably goin with leather long bow or Elven long bow cause my dex is gonna go high soon so which path then?