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Arsik wrote on 2010-10-20 00:47
Okay, I've had enough. No more discussion shall go on about the apparent sexist requirements for the guild. From this point forward, the only discussion that shall take place in this thread is guild members talking within themselves or people who are actually interested in the guild. No more fighting, please. Dx
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Scar wrote on 2010-10-20 00:47
Quote from Hanbaisha;188254:
must treat people fairly. we don’t allow racist players, gender-discriminate players (meaning you look down on women / men), and so on.
I surely hope you Read what you Write, Because your brain did not compute most of this, Just sayin'.
For starters, If you're saying that " Are you really that sensitive? But the girls are handling their insults just fine.
As a matter of fact, people have hardly even noticed them in this thread. :/ ", Then how in the hell, And I repeat.. How in the Hell, That is treating either
Men OR Women Fairly.
Come on.. Keep it coming. There is a loophole in every one of your defenses as to what you have said.
Why don't you just admit what you've done and give it up? I am disturbed by your effort to defend yourself, Are your guildies not even going to Help you? I mean, You ARE speaking in 'THEIR' Behalf, On everything they like. Right??
See, You can go on and on forever about how you're basically 'covering up' all your messups, But that isn't going to Fix them, You are going to get quoted on what Disturbed people, Yeah, Your guild seems alright except for that disturbing part directed at Males. You included man and woman in some specified areas because they were conjoined in that section, But that's just how it is, Doesn't mean that you can make up for saying what you said, I am offended and disturbed.
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Scar wrote on 2010-10-20 00:48
Quote from Arsik;188261:
Okay, I've had enough. No more discussion shall go on about the apparent sexist requirements for the guild. From this point forward, the only discussion that shall take place in this thread is guild members talking within themselves or people who are actually interested in the guild. No more fighting, please. Dx
I sorry Arsik, I didn't see your post before I posted. =(
Wryyyyy......
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Hanbaisha wrote on 2010-10-20 00:49
Quote from Arsik;188261:
Okay, I've had enough. No more discussion shall go on about the apparent sexist requirements for the guild. From this point forward, the only discussion that shall take place in this thread is guild members talking within themselves or people who are actually interested in the guild. No more fighting, please. Dx
you've been blacklisted O_o ooh sorry about that. but anyone would blacklist you after seeing the kind of person you are. :/ too bad. so sad.
and at least everyone knows why you are unreasonably doing what you're doing.
so that way members who wanna join can just blacklist you too. :3 meow~ have fun being blacklisted for flaming guilds without a good nor proven cause. :/
EDIT OH CRAP srry i didnt see ur post. how did u post so fast?! u even replaced that other guy's quote. O_o
i was trying to quote
Ravendor not you. my apologies my apologies. and i agree with you. this all should stop
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Kuyukly wrote on 2010-10-20 00:49
Quote from Arsik;188261:
Okay, I've had enough. No more discussion shall go on about the apparent sexist requirements for the guild. From this point forward, the only discussion that shall take place in this thread is guild members talking within themselves or people who are actually interested in the guild. No more fighting, please. Dx
I'm sorry I joined your site just to argue about this. I know it makes a terrible first impression. >_>;
I must say I highly approve of your avatar and sig, though. Touhou fans unite.
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Scar wrote on 2010-10-20 00:53
Arsik, I request that this site give me a personalized Sadface Emoticon.
Please? D:
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-10-20 01:23
LMAO.
For the record, I did NOT call ANYONE a druggy. I was QUOTING things that YOU/YOUR GUILD MEMBER SAID TO ME AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
And I'm being accused of miss-reading? This begins to explain so much. If you read my post carefully, and the other thread carefully, you'll notice I never called anyone a drug-head. Someone called ME a dung-head. I was quoting what "Utapyon" was saying in the Nexon forums to prove that I had, in fact, been insulted.
If you think I'm flaming, I suggest you look at posts made by this "Utapyon", because I haven't called anyone names.
And this isn't about the sexism, this is about someone horrendously mis-reading my post. It's even in QUOTE boxes meaning I'm not the one who originally said it.
By the way, there is no difference to mine and Kuyukly's posts. The reason you refuse to see that is because you can't properly form a counter to my points, because I go through every contradiction in a post.
Anyway, bump for you. If there's someone that wants to join this guild, let them. At least people who support these requirements won't be joining ours. They'll be going to yours instead. I hope to the Mabination gods I'm being trolled or something. I've never been so grossly misinterpreted and baffled at the same time. Like I said, point exactly to where I insulted you. And I mean QUOTES. I don't mean "You said this so that makes you a flamer".
That you defend your guild, I respect that. That you turn the words that you said around and make them to mean I insulted you, THAT is irritating. In that post, I was quoting something said to me.
My apologies in advanced to Arsik, but I needed to get off of my chest. I haven't felt so insulted in a good while. Needed to get that off my chest before quitting this thread. The very inner workings of my morals feel like they're being challenged it seems. It is for THAT reason that I was willing to make the detailed posts. If anyone besides a member of this guild saw me as flaming, I'd like to know. Just message me or something, I'm not going to post in this thread, and it's not advisable that any of you do either. If I get in trouble for my actions, fine. But I don't want anyone else getting in trouble because of something I did.
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Hanbaisha wrote on 2010-10-20 01:24
please don't spam this thread any longer. i accepted your critiques but now your spamming. sorry but i'm gonna have to report you if you continue any further.
also, you say "obviously" sexist? yeah. i think anyone in their right mind who has read and understood this obviously knows that if you think this group is sexist still then you're just another flamer / hater who may have pretended to read but didn't bother to understand.
post your proof before you make a statement or i'll report it from here on out.
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Ravendor wrote on 2010-10-20 01:35
So then... can I join the guild? This is what my pixel looks like;
[Image: http://fc02.deviantart.net/images3/i/2004/140/8/6/Captive_Night.jpg]
:3
Ah, I kid. Don't worry, I won't bug anyone anymore. It's not really important enough to get worked up about.
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-10-20 01:42
I don't know who you're talking to anymore. None of that post was even about sexism.
Here's your proof, in case you're talking to me:
Nexon Thread
Almost any post by Utapyon, minus the first, contains an insult to someone, or "everyone". THAT is what I was talking about. Porcelain would be me. Since I posted, and since she pointed out that everyone who disagree with her is a flamer/dunghead/troll (depends on the post..), that means I was insulted. In addition, a reference is made to me. So yes. THAT is what my post above is about. Not the sexism issue. You won't see what outsiders see. I already gave up on that issue. This and the previous posts were about the misinterpretation of what I said.
*sigh* Well, at least someone found this entertaining. Sorry again to Arsik for the stress it may have caused. My intention isn't to flame anyone. Right now, all I know is I'm completely and utterly baffled. I have to re-read my own posts just so I am sure of what I said, because of how the posts are being interpreted. x.e
Sidenote before I go: That bishie is the bishiest bishie that ever bishied in bishieland...(that isn't a trap).
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Hanbaisha wrote on 2010-10-20 01:53
Excuse me. First of all i'd like to point out the following..
1 - the first post on the nexon thread was a draft and i agree improvements should be made on it. so i did so here and other places i've posted.
2 - it only makes you look bad. as you can clearly see from the first 2 pages of thread you can understand that all these people did was insult insult insult. not critique. even while knowing full well i couldnt edit the first post, they basically ignored everything else i';ve said.
3 - i revised the post and posted here some time ago and Edelyn went haywire.
4 - Kyukly (sorry if o got your name wrong) came here from that thread. as you can see on the very last page before it was closed people calmed down a bit saying i should've posted this sooner and made my statement clearer. but again the 1st post at nexon can't be edited.
5 - Edalyn still flamed.
6 - even though i've proved in each post i made that the group is not sexist, instead of arguing with those arguments she constantly looks back to the first post clinging to her misunderstanding. yet kyukly kinda gets it just fine. see the difference here? this person wanted to focus only on the argument. esalyn is just scared of having to apologize so brought her friends here to flame and spam the thread.
7 - i apologized about my outburst on nexon already here. but again edalyn doesn't care. she's just here to hate on people :/ so she avoids it and says "look what she said! look what she said!!" thats what i meant about sticky gluing your eyes. and your friends are merely following you instead of confronting this yourself.
i don't hate edalyn. i don't call her names. but she calls me names. i try to prove my statements when i make them and she tries to as well which is the only reason why i even bother talking to her because she has posted a reasonable argument with her understanding.
but again, bringing your friends here to flame, spam, hate the thread when i've clearly justified myself is wrong. :/
i don't mind revising the starting post in a way other people can try to understand better. but i've untouched it so i can constantly prove my point to you all. and so far, none of you have proved me wrong.
this can all be resolved. just stop posting here if you're not interested in joining like your chum buddy said. :/
EDIT: srry about spelling names wrong. i'm not very good with names. i try to go by memory or find the name as reference but when i was writing this i didnt have the time.
again, for all those who read the entire thread. my statements were all "proven" and "justified" and "explained" and i'm told i should revise the starting post so that the misunderstanding doesn't happen again. but i only left it there untouched all this time to prove to Edalyn and the flamers (and those who misunderstood and do NOT flame :3 "thx.") that I meant no harm in what I said. And that even with the misunderstanding, it doesn't justify the harassment of the guild's members and hate posts in the thread.
that's the point that's being argued right now. things about the sexist comments and all have already been proven and justified. now the only people posting here are edalyn and her friends and followers who just wanna fan the flames because she doesnt want to admit she was wrong to flame.
if you don't want to admit it then fine. but then you should just take your friends and leave instead of making things worse. accepting things and calming down won't hurt anyone. kyukly (*srry bad spelling again*) did it and obviously showed to everyone that he's NOT a flamer nor a hater. he just wanted to clarify things. calming down and talking about it will actually help make you look better.
there's no need to bring your army here and sully the place with hate comments that can no longer be validly justified. with every post you make you're just getting angry about the same statement. and even when i prove you wrong, your friends just get upset and call out names. really, you need to put a stop to this.
i have no problem with you and your friends. but if you don't have anything else to say where i dont have to repeat my answer AGAIN to prove you wrong about your assumptions repeatedly then stop complaining.
when the complaining stops then i'll proceed to revise the beginning post. but before then i'm just gonna have to leave it there and keep using quotes to answer the bits and pieces you take and magnify. you're only hindering the revision. and you're only making things look worse by continuing to call names and throw a trauma tantrum with your friends.
calm down. take a breather.
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Ravendor wrote on 2010-10-20 02:23
These all haven't been flames; they've been criticism.
A proper flame would be: "your anime weaboo guild sucks you need to kill yourself, lol". That's a flame.
Also, it's Adelynn. Adelynn. You could at least get the name of the person you're arguing with right, Henbaisha.
... So can I join? I'm level 800 total. :D
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Hanbaisha wrote on 2010-10-20 02:32
Quote from Ravendor;188332:
These all haven't been flames; they've been criticism.
A proper flame would be: "your anime weaboo guild sucks you need to kill yourself, lol". That's a flame.
Also, it's Adelynn. Adelynn. You could at least get the name of the person you're arguing with right, Henbaisha.
... So can I join? I'm level 800 total. :D
i'm bad with names. my apologies. it's not that i'm not trying. but i'm really not good with names. never have been.
and yes you can join :3 we don't care about your lvl. as long as you wanna be the guild and you don't mind that there are few men in it DX cuz that might make some people feel uncomfortable, then sure we don't mind. you can definitely join. :3
and some of these posts have been critique. i definitely agree with that. that's why i try to reply to them the best i can.
but i don't like the parts with the namecalling : drughead, idiot, stupid, etc. etc. etc.
Namecalling isn't critiquing it's starting a fight. O.o I dunno maybe I'm wrong but that's what flaming is right?
I have no problem with Adelynn I just want the fight and the insults to stop. Otherwise, people can ask as much questions as possible. And if the fight stops I can spend my time revising the beginning post in a way that no one will be offended by it.
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Arsik wrote on 2010-10-20 02:33
Okay, even though I said no more of the fighting, it continued, so I cleaned up the thread, and now ask, since the fighting couldn't just end, that any further discussion about the guild's policies and criticism be sent to PMs please. We really don't need drama here. After this, if people continue to fight about things about this guild's policies in this thread, then infractions will be handed out, with a 5 minute grace period so that people can see my post. Please and thanks.
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Hanbaisha wrote on 2010-10-20 02:35
Quote from Arsik;188343:
Okay, even though I said no more of the fighting, it continued, so I cleaned up the thread, and now ask, since the fighting couldn't just end, that any further discussion about the guild's policies and criticism be sent to PMs please. We really don't need drama here. After this, if people continue to fight about things about this guild's policies in this thread, then infractions will be handed out, with a 5 minute grace period so that people can see my post. Please and thanks.
thanks but there was no need to clean up the thread. actually doing this wont solve anything since people will now repeat their flames and i'll have to explain all over again.
the fight ended already before you posted.
well, i'll just take the chance to revise the starting post instead. o.o so thx?