Evie: The Battle Scythe

• karai999 wrote on 2010-11-12 02:15
  UPDATE: managed to solo trampeled plains in 19 mins (whole level in 19 mins including a fight with 2 minibosses pre main boss)
  
  Tactics: use the wall! get them to charge you into the wall they will then try to jump back when they miss thier attack but they cant because they will just jump back into the wall giving you enough time to get a scythe 3 in and marking them with death label.
  Summoning a wisp to distract 1-2 of them is not a bad idea either and as they are knocked down VERY easily the wisp might even knock them down for you sometimes.
  
  I'll post a video later, but all in all its not worth your time, your time will be better spent soloing red tyrant with 4 people oath (55k EXP per run if done solo), its much better exp/gold per run and untill you can do red tyrant solo macha prince.
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-11-12 02:37

  Quote from karai999;212506:

  Just a few words, Scythe evie should focus on INT to increase MATK, while the smashes of the scythe are both magical and physical the magical part is the larger part by a large amount!

  Already mentioned. MM, INT and MCrit are under priority.
  
  

  Quote from karai999;212506:

  also, the magical shield is not as weak as people think it is, it all depends how you get hit by the boss and which boss it is.

  It IS weak.
  The further into the game you get, the stronger the bosses get.
  However, the Magic Shield does not become any stronger.
  
  

  Quote from karai999;212506:

  Also, I read in a few guides that AGI affects scythe criticals, yet in your guide you say there is no need to rank it? if AGI indeed affects scythe crit % why not rank AGI mastery to rank A?

  
  [s]Physical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Critical Skill %) + Will * 0.03/200]
  
  Magical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Magic Critical Skill %) + (Intelligence +1000) * 0.03/200][/s]
  
  

  Quote from karai999;212506:

  Lastly as for light/heavy armor...hmmm I'de say its a waste but I guess thats a matter of choice, I dont plan on getting hit enough to take too much damage that i'll need the defence, when I solo red tyrant I mainly take damage on my shields and even not much of that.
  

  Red Tyrant is relatively easy to evade and is limited to 1-2 hit smashes.
  Later on when the bosses have stronger multi-hit attacks, your Magic Shield would not save you.
  1-2 hits would break your shield and another 2 hits should be more than enough to kill you if you're wearing Cloth.
• GregHouse wrote on 2010-11-12 02:37

  Quote from Ruquion;212434:

  I doubt an increase in 85 AGI is as significant as a decrease in 7 stamina needed.

  
  
  Youre right, but consider the faster stamina recovery rate, its quite useful. Eventually youll get both to A, so...
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-11-12 02:39

  Quote from GregHouse;212612:

  Youre right, but consider the faster stamina recovery rate, its quite useful. Eventually youll get both to A, so...

  The problem is if the increase in stamina recovery is significant.
  
  The decrease in 7 stamina needed to use Blink is very noticeable, while I've hardly noticed a difference in stamina regeneration even after I've maxed AGI mastery on my Lann.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-12 02:40

  Magical Critical Damage Formula:
  Damage * [1+ (Magic Critical Skill %) + (Intelligence +1000) * 0.03/200]

  
  
  That's the damage formula though, but it isn't proven that AGI can or cannot increase the CHANCES of a critical occurring.
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-11-12 02:42

  Quote from Shirayuki;212618:

  That's the damage formula though, but it isn't proven that AGI can or cannot increase the CHANCES of a critical occurring.

  Oups
• karai999 wrote on 2010-11-12 02:50
  Ruquion, it dosent matter how strong the boss hits, if the boss so hard he kills you in 1 chain of multihit attacks you just have to be smart to avoid it and attack when there is a safe opening. Like you said INT and MATK are main sources of damage so giving up so much INT in favour of STR/AGI of light armor seems pointless to me since the difference of damage taken is also not so large between cloth and light armor from my expirience.
  To sum it up with i think is : the stronger the boss gets the smarter you need to play. I dont think there is any type of attack you cant completly avoid with blinks.
• Ruquion wrote on 2010-11-12 02:53

  Quote from karai999;212634:

  Ruquion, it dosent matter how strong the boss hits, if the boss so hard he kills you in 1 chain of multihit attacks you just have to be smart to avoid it and attack when there is a safe opening. Like you said INT and MATK are main sources of damage so giving up so much INT in favour of STR/AGI of light armor seems pointless to me since the difference of damage taken is also not so large between cloth and light armor from my expirience.
  To sum it up with i think is : the stronger the boss gets the smarter you need to play. I dont think there is any type of attack you cant completly avoid with blinks.

  The issue is IF you make a mistake and get hit.
  With heavy armor you might be able to survive the hit, retreat to a safe distance and heal.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-11-12 02:54
  Are we forgetting Evie has magic shields?
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-11-12 02:55

  Quote from Hiccup;212643:

  Are we forgetting Evie has magic shields?

  
  
  They're talking about how they get weaker as the game goes on, and how Evie dies in 2 hits without her shields and 3 hits with her shields :p
  
  And maybe 4 or 5 hits with Heavy Armor.
• GregHouse wrote on 2010-11-12 03:21

  Quote from Ruquion;212616:

  The problem is if the increase in stamina recovery is significant.
  
  The decrease in 7 stamina needed to use Blink is very noticeable, while I've hardly noticed a difference in stamina regeneration even after I've maxed AGI mastery on my Lann.

  
  
  It is significant, really. Ive maxed agi and i love how my full bar fills in 2 seconds of walking. Maybe the effects on crit are not that big, maybe 85 agi is not that much, but the increase in stamina recovery speed is significant. At least for me and my evie.
  
  EDIT: And im ranking Blink, so dont think im arguing against you, im just adding info.
• heretic304 wrote on 2010-11-12 11:14

  Quote from Ruquion;212616:

  The problem is if the increase in stamina recovery is significant.
  
  The decrease in 7 stamina needed to use Blink is very noticeable, while I've hardly noticed a difference in stamina regeneration even after I've maxed AGI mastery on my Lann.

  
  
  Well you can kinda test the difference though. If you're wearing armor that gives agility, take off enough pieces of it to equal roughly the amount of rA Agility Mastery. See if you notice any difference.
  
  I can say right now though, that having the max agility mastery is quite significant. It's like when I do naked runs of anything. Without the AGI boost from my Blood Prince, my stamina regenerates that much slower, and it's quite noticeable as well.
• whocares8128 wrote on 2010-11-12 21:46
  There is some funny math going on for one of the require AP totals on Magic Mastery. Also (just curious), is there any rhyme or reason why some AP totals are displayed while others are not?
• karai999 wrote on 2010-11-12 22:56
  For the person who wanted a solo show of trampeled plains :
  
  YouTube - trampeled plains solo scythe
  
  Hope you find it instructive, the battle also can be done the same way without 'parking' 2 bosses at the top of the stairs but its easier this way.
• heretic304 wrote on 2010-11-12 23:11
  It should be noted that Battle Scythe: Life Drain will only drain life if the target is still alive when you use the drain skill. If your smash kills it, you'll just do the animation for nothing. It also seems to only heal up to however much HP the target has left. So if you happen to drain a target that only has 10 HP left and overkill it for like 500 with your drain, you'll only gain 10 HP, which makes it kinda bleh to use. It also has a very bad hitbox. It's literally straight line and a very tiny width, so it's not that easy to aim, especially if you're trying to use it on the fly while a boss is attacking you.